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Umm, yeah, SSD's get slower as they get fuller, same as HDD's, not a common known fact but its true. Optimal to stay at around 70% usage.
Windows 7 makes less sense actually, they are going to discontinue support for 7 probably by the end of the year (if what I hear is true), which is very bad for a family PC.

Yes, it is an entry level kingston SSD, but its not actually all that bad, I've heard quite good things about it. BTW, I wouldn't trust Crucial drives anyways, I've always gotten bad stuff from them. Thats more just a personal opinion though.

Yeah agreed, windows 8.1 with start8 to make it more desktop feeling should accomplish the same thing without taking a step back.
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That looks like a great build. And I see your point in using an APU to eliminate the dGPU. After getting up from my reply I realized that the iGPU in the A8/A10 chips are actually pretty close to the GT 430. But... I immediately forgot about remember that, so I never went back to edit my post. Now then... Time for bed.
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post #23 of 28
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That looks like a great build. And I see your point in using an APU to eliminate the dGPU. After getting up from my reply I realized that the iGPU in the A8/A10 chips are actually pretty close to the GT 430. But... I immediately forgot about remember that, so I never went back to edit my post. Now then... Time for bed.

Haha yeah I read your post and was like whaaa? but the thing with the SSD was true.

Bed?! Haha the sun is just coming up here wink.gif
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post #24 of 28
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Yeah agreed, windows 8.1 with start8 to make it more desktop feeling should accomplish the same thing without taking a step back.

I have to disagree. I used Win 8 for about 6 months and even with Start 8 it has it's issues that can be frustrating. In my opinion Windows 8 is unsuitable for working computer without touchscreen. Sure, you can work around it's issues but it's not as good as Windows 7 is for that. Ofcource some people do seem to quite like it. If the user is that kind of person then great, if not or he does not know then going with Win 7 is far safer bet. Windows 7 is supported until 2020 at least.
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post #25 of 28
IMHO and personal experience, the GT430 is a complete waste of money.
If you have $40-50 extra to spend, go for a better CPU/Monitor/Storage etc.

The HD4400 with i3s is "good enough". Probably the equiv. Celeron has an ok IGP for pretty much anything, including light CAD work and Photoshop. GPU acceleration on any level is a complete joke with a GT430.
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post #26 of 28
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I have to disagree. I used Win 8 for about 6 months and even with Start 8 it has it's issues that can be frustrating. In my opinion Windows 8 is unsuitable for working computer without touchscreen. Sure, you can work around it's issues but it's not as good as Windows 7 is for that. Ofcource some people do seem to quite like it. If the user is that kind of person then great, if not or he does not know then going with Win 7 is far safer bet. Windows 7 is supported until 2020 at least.

It is definitely a personal thing! Haha I agreed, but still use 7, just for personal preference, but we are talking about the guy's dad, and I've seen non computer people use 8 really effectively. So the stuff you and I care about may not matter to his dad.

So my suggestion is to let him try out both and see what he would prefer! If the OP can show his dad before he buys an OS.
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How about this?
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24 " Monitor...139$

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_1195_700_1103&item_id=058476
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Windows 8.1 64 bit ...110$

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=530&item_id=064934

or Windows 7 64bit sp1...100$

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=530&item_id=037803
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Case+PSU ...45$

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=6_112&item_id=040161
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Disc Drive...20$

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=3_61&item_id=060114
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Asus Mobo ...83$

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_1207_1206_1201&item_id=060725
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Optional,,Radeon 7730 ...70$...You could get a 1tb hdd instead.

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_1200_557_558&item_id=063775
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4gb of ram... 47$

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=24_311_312_612&item_id=065911
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240 SSD...130$

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=179_1229_1088&item_id=064198
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i3-4130...135$

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4_1210_65&item_id=063168
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And it is all for around 780$.
Edited by Overclock544 - 3/17/14 at 11:09am
post #28 of 28
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I have to disagree. I used Win 8 for about 6 months and even with Start 8 it has it's issues that can be frustrating. In my opinion Windows 8 is unsuitable for working computer without touchscreen. Sure, you can work around it's issues but it's not as good as Windows 7 is for that. Ofcource some people do seem to quite like it. If the user is that kind of person then great, if not or he does not know then going with Win 7 is far safer bet. Windows 7 is supported until 2020 at least.
Uhh, straight from the microsoft website, Mainstream support ends January 13, 2015. Meaning for the general public, Windows 7 is no longer supported. Extended support is for things like, ATM's, large companies that can't change over yet, etc, etc.

Also, as Ultra said, his dad would probably love Windows 8.1. It has great photo viewing features and a multitude of other things that would make his work easier. Remember, this isn't for power users like you and I, this is for a normal user, that just wants to check emails, watch movies and do their work.
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