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nh-d14 to apogee drive 2 plus 120mm x 30mm rad.

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so, is it worth it? will i see a great improvement in temps? CPU is 4770k.
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I haven't used the noctua cooler but can tell you if you really want to benefit from the switch to water cooling, use a 240mm radiator.

The swiftech h220 and cooler master glacier 240L both have the same copper base as the apogee drive 2 and are cheaper; the pump used in those are not as powerful as the drive2 though, but its enough for GPU expansion as well and the kits cost the same as a drive2
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the h220 pump is a 3000rpm mcp35x. the ad2 uses an actual mcp35x. other than the obvious rpm difference, the other obvious difference is the pump's cooling. the h220 i assume has the normal flat plate heatsink while the ad2 has an actual extruded/machined aluminum heatsink.
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I'd go with the Apogee Drive II, and a custom loop. You'll notice a good thermal drop. The MCP35x is a hell of a pump, one of the best on the market and it's the pump used in the AD2. It also is pretty easy to transfer to other pump housings for later use if you so desire, not sure if the H220 can do that. Apogee Drive II is just basically an Apogee XT waterblock with an integrated pump top. You'll need to pair it with a radiator, and a reservoir. Just a little advice, get a rather large reservoir, the Apogee Drive II can be a pain in the rump to bleed air out of. I would recommend partially filling your reservoir, running that into the AD2, then having the outtake on the AD2 go to the rad, then when filling disconnect the tube from the rad and simply suck on it to get coolant into the Apogee Drive II so you can get it easily primed. You CAN NOT run most all watercooling pumps without coolant in them, they use the coolant as a lubricant for their bearing, and without it the ceramic bearing and scratch the graphite contacts which is a bad day.
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the h220 pump is a 3000rpm mcp35x. the ad2 uses an actual mcp35x. other than the obvious rpm difference, the other obvious difference is the pump's cooling. the h220 i assume has the normal flat plate heatsink while the ad2 has an actual extruded/machined aluminum heatsink.

Actually the h220 pump is swiftechs own in house designed pump, not related to the mcp35x. The AD2 does have that heatsink on the pump that the h220 does not have, but Im not sure the h220 even needs it since that pump was made to run at a peak 4500rpm, its capped at 3000rpm on the h220 and 3500rpm on the CM glacier 240L. I can say the h220 does great on my cpu and gpu loop.

One downside to the h220 is that it will only run 3/8" ID hose and the AD2 will out perform it in terms of flow but for a cpu only or cpu and one gpu loop, I dont think the gains will be significant enough if the main goal is to save money. CPU only loop Im sure they will cool the same since the copper plate is the same and flow rate is more than enough for cpu only. Swiftech has even shown the h220 with cpu, sli/cf, and I think 2-3 radiators. If money isnt an object the AD2 would be a better bet though, I just thought to mention the h220 as it shares a lot in common with the AD2 at a cheaper price.

Only other thing I feel I would need to mention is that there are a few failures in the h220 thread, I have had mine for just over 3 months and no issues. The nice thing is that swiftech is VERY on top of their customer service.
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i can't go with dual 120mm rad because of my SG10 case, but i'm planning to upgrade later to TJ08-E and add my dual gtx 780 to the loop.
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i can't go with dual 120mm rad because of my SG10 case, but i'm planning to upgrade later to TJ08-E and add my dual gtx 780 to the loop.

Yeah I used to use a tj08-e, not with the h220 but I did have a 180mm radiator in the front. Its a good little case but can be a bit of an oven. For that case I honestly recommend just a front 180/200mm radiator and leave the rear 120mm as a fan alone to help get as much air out of the case. Adding a 120mm radiator didnt do much I believe due to heat soak from all the hot compenents inside the case. I felt better off when I just had the 120mm fan in the back

For your use though, seems like an AD2 will be a good route. The Swiftech micro res is small enough to fit anywhere as well.
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Yeah I used to use a tj08-e, not with the h220 but I did have a 180mm radiator in the front. Its a good little case but can be a bit of an oven. For that case I honestly recommend just a front 180/200mm radiator and leave the rear 120mm as a fan alone to help get as much air out of the case. Adding a 120mm radiator didnt do much I believe due to heat soak from all the hot compenents inside the case. I felt better off when I just had the 120mm fan in the back

For your use though, seems like an AD2 will be a good route. The Swiftech micro res is small enough to fit anywhere as well.

Did you have dual gpu in tj08?
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No single GPU.
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i can't go with dual 120mm rad because of my SG10 case, but i'm planning to upgrade later to TJ08-E and add my dual gtx 780 to the loop.

What kind of noise levels can you tolerate? If you can't fit sufficient radspace in there you might be better off with the tower cooler.

You might consider mounting the radiator externally, in the top or back of the case.
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