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My grandparents are needing something for their home theater system that can do everything they want instead of having multiple devices.

Right now they have a Blu-Ray player, Roku HD for Netflix and a Dish Network HD DVR. Their A/V receiver is a Yamaha RX-V565.

They would also like to stream video from a PC hard drive like I do with my desktop and my PS3. They might also want to record shows/movies that are on their DVR to a PC HDD. So I guess they would need a TV Tuner card for that. I have an extra external HDD hooked up to the Dish Network HD DVR for extra storage but I'm pretty sure that file format is proprietary and wouldn't work on a different DVR like from a cable company or from DirecTV if they were to switch.

I get by just fine with my PS3 for my home theater system. The only thing it can't do is record video from the TV to either the PS3 or across my network to my NAS or my desktop hard drives.

I am thinking that maybe an HTPC would be a good solution for them, but I need to keep everything simple to operate once I get it configured. I would need most everything to work with just a remote and not need a mouse/keyboard very often or at all.

I have no problem with building the HTPC as far as basic components. I was thinking of something similar to this:

CPU:
Ivy-Bridge or Haswell Core i3 dual core with hyperthreading
Motherboard:
Asus or Gigabyte Micro-ATX with optical/coax digital audio output and HDMI.
RAM:
2x4GB DDR3 1333/1600MHz
GPU:
Intel Core i3 integrated HD graphics
SSD:
mSATA or M.2 SSD with around 60-80GB for OS and basic applications
HDD:
1-2TB 7200RPM SATA3 for media storage
TV Tuner Card:
Not sure, decent one with digital inputs(HDMI) if not too expensive or what would work best.
OS/Software:
Not sure what OS is easiest to use with a remote control and is best for HTPC. Either Win7 or Win8. Would also need software for the remote control and to control all functions as far as streaming audio/video from the HDD, internet or netflix.

I'm not sure if that is everything I will need. Obviously PSU and optical drives but that is a given. I've never setup an HTPC so I'm not sure what software is good and how to make most everything work with a remote control instead of a mouse.
   
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I would go with an HTPC as i just got done building one for myself with some older hardware and absolutely love it. My opinion run XBMC on it you will enjoy it if you have a movie collection like i have. You can run it stand alone or your can run it on top of Windows. Plus you will have the ability to add a better graphics solution especially when 4k content and tvs start to replace 1080p.
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Thanks. The software like XBMC was what I was trying to think of. That can be configured to be controlled by a remote control right?
   
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Thanks. The software like XBMC was what I was trying to think of. That can be configured to be controlled by a remote control right?

If you have a smart phone or tablet look up an app called Yatse. It goes over WiFi and is a great remote for xbmc
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If you have a smart phone or tablet look up an app called Yatse. It goes over WiFi and is a great remote for xbmc

Me and my wife have tablets that would work but this is for my grandparent's home theater. They don't have smartphones or tablets. Is there a special remote for XBMC or could they use one of the Logitechs like the Harmony 650?

I guess something like the Rosewill RRC-126 will work.
Edited by Dark Volker - 3/17/14 at 9:10am
   
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i dont see why not. I never looked into this option as soon as i found out that i could use my tablet or smart phone i fell in love. You actually dont even need to look at the TV screen to play the movie it copies your library over to your device and they could select the movie from it. My recommendation is if you have a old smart phone just use it you dont have to activate it to use wifi and download apps so that would be an option if you have it.
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i dont see why not. I never looked into this option as soon as i found out that i could use my tablet or smart phone i fell in love. You actually dont even need to look at the TV screen to play the movie it copies your library over to your device and they could select the movie from it. My recommendation is if you have a old smart phone just use it you dont have to activate it to use wifi and download apps so that would be an option if you have it.

I don't have any old smartphones or extra tablets or anything for them to use for this. I will just have to find a remote control for them to use with XBMC. It would help if a few people could give some input as to what remotes are best for this purpose. Wouldn't really want to spend more than $30-$35 for a remote though. Thanks
   
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Along with recommendations for remotes that will work with XBMC/WMC in Windows 7 or Windows 8, what are some good TV tuners that aren't crazy expensive?
   
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Along with recommendations for remotes that will work with XBMC/WMC in Windows 7 or Windows 8, what are some good TV tuners that aren't crazy expensive?
If they are receiving premium cable channels, a cable card tuner will be required. I don't know of any that are under $100. An i3 with integrated HD graphics is fine, that's what I have. You only need 4GB RAM so you can save some money there.
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To my knowledge there is not a tuner card that will work directly with Dish Network. You can still get one to use basically as a capture card to record tv shows and stuff but they would still have to have the Dish Receiver and have to change the channel and start the recording manually. The standard cable tuner cards that work with non-satellite services, like the Ceton Infinitv cards, integrate with WMC almost seamlessly. The only thing they lack is the Video-on-Demand options.

As far as remote go, I've got this one

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00224ZDFY/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Remarkably it has worked with every OS I have, Win7, Win8, OSX, and Ubtuntu. It works best with Windows based systems since the shortcut buttons are programmed for Windows. But it's cheap and works.
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