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Here's yet another example of a developer showing one thing and delivering something different. This crap needs to stop. It really is false advertising/baiting and switching. I understand consoles are far inferior to pc hardware but even when you demo a game at a convention like e3 running on pc, the majority of the masses will believe their consoles are going to look the same. While they may be incompetent to the inner workings of the game industry's advertising/marketing tactics and scheming, they are not at fault for it. These big time developers/publishers need to be held accountable and I am not just suggesting we stop purchasing their products. I am suggesting legal action and punishment.

http://hothardware.com/News/Irate-Gamers-Launch-Campaign-Over-Dark-Souls-II-Console-Graphics-Downgrade/
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Despite receiving mostly high scores and praise from review sites and gaming publications, Namco Bandai's Dark Souls II is the subject of a controversy over its in-game graphics. PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 gamers have taken to the Internet to voice their collective displeasure regarding what they feel are significantly downgraded graphics compared to the preview footage Namco Bandai made available prior to the sequel's release.
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Here's yet another example of a developer showing one thing and delivering something different. This crap needs to stop. It really is false advertising/baiting and switching. I understand consoles are far inferior to pc hardware but even when you demo a game at a convention like e3 running on pc, the majority of the masses will believe their consoles are going to look the same. While they may be incompetent to the inner workings of the game industry's advertising/marketing tactics and scheming, they are not at fault for it. These big time developers/publishers need to be held accountable and I am not just suggesting we stop purchasing their products. I am suggesting legal action and punishment.

http://hothardware.com/News/Irate-Gamers-Launch-Campaign-Over-Dark-Souls-II-Console-Graphics-Downgrade/

It's not only preview footage, the beta and various build levels on the actual consoles were running with these effects in place... the fact that they were removed is "odd" I don't recall seeing anyone complaining about performance issues with them in place either.

I'm wondering if it was stripped from the PC version also.
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I really wanna sympathize with console players. I can't though. There's this mental block in my head that always tells me that everything bad that happens to console games is well-deserved. I know I have a problem. Help me someone, please. biggrin.gif
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While they may be incompetent to the inner workings of the game industry's advertising/marketing tactics and scheming, they are not at fault for it.

Totally agree. Well put bro. Now let's hear them cry about piracy later, and how it affected their sales. LAUGHABLE! HAH!
 
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Didn't know they made PS2 games anymore..............HAHAHAHAHAH.....it must be a joke, someone tell the devs it not april yet.
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Some of the articles circling are mentioning that the footage that they are comparing to is mostly PC. I'm surprised that DS has not been announced for PS4/XO since you would expect the pre-release footage to be of the game running on those or PC but not PS3 or 360.

As said above, can't really feel for those complaining about the fidelity. They should be aware by now what their hardware is capable of running.
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Seems like they showed the PC version at E3.
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I personally don't care.

If the dynamic lighting system we saw a while ago lowered the framerate any lower, then I'm happy it was abandoned.

In the NeoGAF thread comparing the PS3 versions, people are speculating that with the dynamic lighting we saw, torches would be worthless, or something like that.

I do understand the argument though as they did talk for a while about a "complete graphics overhaul" then showed that lighting system, then the game's released and it was obviously abandoned.

I bought the PS3 version so I could enjoy it early, and the framerate is just awful early on, but you get used to it.

I'll also be buying the PC version for a much higher res and framerate.

Edit - I also recall seeing a disappearing HUD during the network stress test as I was playing it, so they obviously abandoned other things.
Edited by Ascii Aficionado - 3/17/14 at 1:32pm
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Both of them look terrible, honestly.

Also.... This is why Forbes should be trusted for absolutely nothing, ever:
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An article in Forbes, for example, somewhat defends the downgraded graphics on the basis that the higher quality effects are distracting and could potentially hurt performance.

In other news, Intel announces all new SNAIL'S PACE chips. Citing a Forbes article as a source, Intel believes that a CPU that is too fast is "distracting".
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I wouldn't call it false advertising. Anything "in development" is bound to change somehow. The buyers could have waited for reviews before buying it too.

Haven't you ever compared a concept car vs the actual production version?
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