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Dark Souls is barely playable on the PC. The resolution is locked at some non standard low resolution. The frame rate is locked. There are also multitudes of other problems with it. Completely unacceptable.

They released a quarter finished port just to make a quick buck. Even EA pushes out higher quality products. When a company is worse than EA you know to stay far, far away.

the company released the game on PC because PC gamers asked for it. they admitted that they had no experience making games on pc and that there were some troubles. most of the presentation issues were addressed shortly after the game's release by the community. the sequel will be much better from the start on PC. you seem to have have this inexperienced team confused with a mega dev/publisher that has experience on every platform but purposely churns out tons of stale junk because on paper it shows maximum profitability.

Nice excuse, but I'm not buying it. If they knew they were going to release an inferior product they should have discounted it heavily. Instead they released it at $40 and ripped off everyone who bought it.

Even after the community fixed it they didn't bother to incorporate the fixes into the official build. They didn't even compensate the fixer for fixing their broken game. They took your money and ran.

Business is business, and a lot of people got played by a clever marketing move.
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Nice excuse, but I'm not buying it. If they knew they were going to release an inferior product they should have discounted it heavily. Instead they released it at $40 and ripped off everyone who bought it.

Even after the community fixed it they didn't bother to incorporate the fixes into the official build. They didn't even compensate the fixer for fixing their broken game. They took your money and ran.

Business is business, and a lot of people got played by a clever marketing move.

Because they saw an opportunity to make some quick cash. But it wasn't their priority or primary intention to please pc gamers. If they wanted to please pc gamers they wouldn't have released it in the condition it was.

That's the way a lot of devs operate today and that is why we get so many ports and unpolished games. It's concern for the money first and foremost. Games get rushed out and then you have a bunch of po'ed customers. You think they'd wake up and realize this is just terrible business practice.
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Nice excuse, but I'm not buying it. If they knew they were going to release an inferior product they should have discounted it heavily. Instead they released it at $40 and ripped off everyone who bought it.

Even after the community fixed it they didn't bother to incorporate the fixes into the official build. They didn't even compensate the fixer for fixing their broken game. They took your money and ran.

Business is business, and a lot of people got played by a clever marketing move.

As if a $60 game discounted 33% isn't heavily rolleyes.gif Yea they took my money and I enjoyed the game both on PC and playstation 3 what's your point? Sounds like you're really grasping at straws especially with the "They didn't even compensate the fixer". That's like saying bethesda should have compensated modders for fixing their crappy dialogue and crappy textures in skyrim.
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Because they saw an opportunity to make some quick cash. But it wasn't their priority or primary intention to please pc gamers. If they wanted to please pc gamers they wouldn't have released it in the condition it was.

That's the way a lot of devs operate today and that is why we get so many ports and unpolished games. It's concern for the money first and foremost. Games get rushed out and then you have a bunch of po'ed customers. You think they'd wake up and realize this is just terrible business practice.

It wasn't their intention to release a PC version PERIOD. What don't you guys understand? They didn't know how to make a PC version and yet they did because you PC gamers cried your eyes out begging for it. It's a small company with little to no experience with developing for PC and yet you expect them to release something with no bugs just because big budget companies can do it.
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IMO they both look terrible expecially the "downgraded" footage looks like a tablet game.
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As if a $60 game discounted 33% isn't heavily rolleyes.gif Yea they took my money and I enjoyed the game both on PC and playstation 3 what's your point? Sounds like you're really grasping at straws especially with the "They didn't even compensate the fixer". That's like saying bethesda should have compensated modders for fixing their crappy dialogue and crappy textures in skyrim.
It wasn't their intention to release a PC version PERIOD. What don't you guys understand? They didn't know how to make a PC version and yet they did because you PC gamers cried your eyes out begging for it. It's a small company with little to no experience with developing for PC and yet you expect them to release something with no bugs just because big budget companies can do it.

Personally, I would rather have them not release a game at all for the pc if it ends up so buggy and unrefined but that goes for every developer IMO. No one wants to buy a broken product. People purchasing the game may not have been aware of that dev's lack of pc knowledge. Hell, I wasn't and I follow a lot of games.

If you don't know how to develop a game for pc, learn first and then release it but otherwise, don't release your experimentation and play with peoples' money when they are expecting a finished product with less issues.
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Or they're waiting for people to buy it then release a "HD res" DLC for the low low price of $9.99 (£9.99, €12.99, and 49.99AUD thumb.gif)

ROFL. And here I thought the the USD -> Euro conversion had the largest tax...
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Personally, I would rather have them not release a game at all for the pc if it ends up so buggy and unrefined but that goes for every developer IMO. No one wants to buy a broken product. People purchasing the game may not have been aware of that dev's lack of pc knowledge. Hell, I wasn't and I follow a lot of games.

If you don't know how to develop a game for pc, learn first and then release it but otherwise, don't release your experimentation and play with peoples' money when they are expecting a finished product with less issues.

What problems were you having with the game? The only problem I had was with the low resolution which was easily fixed with DSFix. What major problems were other people having to consider it broken?

Serious question
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Personally, I would rather have them not release a game at all for the pc if it ends up so buggy and unrefined but that goes for every developer IMO. No one wants to buy a broken product. People purchasing the game may not have been aware of that dev's lack of pc knowledge. Hell, I wasn't and I follow a lot of games.

If you don't know how to develop a game for pc, learn first and then release it but otherwise, don't release your experimentation and play with peoples' money when they are expecting a finished product with less issues.

If they want to release a crappy port let them. Its always a shame when a good game is dragged down by technical failures but nobody is forcing anyone to by thees games. I think Dark souls 1 is a great game but due to the shoddy porting job I don't think it was worth 40€. So you know what I did? I didn't buy it for 40€ I waited for it to be discounted to 10€ as that is what I was willing to pay for it.

Its really that simple, don't like it don't buy it. People just need to stop paying blindly for stuff. Don't pre-order and read reviews to find out what the final product is like on your platform before you spend your hard earned cash on it.
    
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What problems were you having with the game? The only problem I had was with the low resolution which was easily fixed with DSFix. What major problems were other people having to consider it broken?

Serious question

http://www.edge-online.com/features/dark-souls-producer-says-pc-version-was-rushed-problems-were-expected/

read that. Kind of frustrates that publishers/developers do this....

I don't really buy that they rushed it out because pc gamers were crying about it, so much as they never had the intention of devoting much time and resources to the pc version in the first place. All about the quick dollar IMO.

They knew they had issues and they knew how to resolve them prior to release yet they didn't....
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