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That's what i'm on about. To help clear the controversy they need to make it clear what platform people are playing. You wouldn't sell a movie from a 1920x1080 advert to find out the DVD version was 800x600

They didnt lie. Its like the car commercials that advertise the performance edition. You're not cheated out of a base model car, they just showed their best car for advertising.
    
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They didnt lie. Its like the car commercials that advertise the performance edition. You're not cheated out of a base model car, they just showed their best car for advertising.
you mean like mercedes showing all their cars advertisements with amg style exterior package on?

but this is clearly a ripoff. they show game in its perfection, then dumb down consoles so it can run certains fps, and then they even dumb down pc version so console people dont cry wolf. now sorry, but thats fraud in my book

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They didnt lie. Its like the car commercials that advertise the performance edition. You're not cheated out of a base model car, they just showed their best car for advertising.
A lot of people have been saying this, but it's incorrect. They have advertised the PS3 version specifically on multiple occasions with the full lighting engine and other now missing graphics intact. The complaints being made about the E3 trailer fit your analogy just fine however, assuming the PC version ends up looking like it was presented.
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While they may be incompetent to the inner workings of the game industry's advertising/marketing tactics and scheming, they are not at fault for it.

What? I feel like if someone is going to complain about hardware capabilities they should first educate themselves on how it works. Ignorance doesn't really work for an argument. Where I am against the shady things that happen way too often in the gaming industry these days, I feel as though this situation is a little bit different. They took a game that was being previewed at it's max capabilities on the newest hardware and put it on last gen consoles. As said before, people should expect huge downgrades when switching to 7.5(ish) year old hardware. I'd also rather a downgrade in graphics for a smooth framerate then stuttering performance due to the console not handling it.

On a side note, if the game comes out for PC and looks way worse than previewed, then I'll be pissed also. tongue.gif
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its cheat the consumer just put on E3 all builds PC,PS3,Xbox 360 and call what it is the old hardware. is not the first time this happen i love the game!
but if you show something release that!!

becouse i cant show you one house you buy that house then i give you another house simply i cant!
    
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They didnt lie. Its like the car commercials that advertise the performance edition. You're not cheated out of a base model car, they just showed their best car for advertising.

What I'm saying is that they don't make it clear. Sure a lot of people will be naturally suspect to find out what their chosen platform will ultimately look like, but a lot of people watch trailers and play the demos and assume its an cross platform experience. They end up annoyed when its avoidable by either making the experiences more universal or stating the test versions platform.
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Its a lame move but still an incredible game, my game of the year so far, i just finished my first playthrough, took 52 hours and that's going pretty fast and not messing around with side stuff. Even after you're finished there is a ton to do, such a great game!
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What? I feel like if someone is going to complain about hardware capabilities they should first educate themselves onignohow it works. Ignorance doesn't really work for an argument. Where I am against the shady things that happen way too often in the gaming industry these days, I feel as though this situation is a little bit different. They took a game that was being previewed at it's max capabilities on the newest hardware and put it on last gen consoles. As said before, people should expect huge downgrades when switching to 7.5(ish) year old hardware. I'd also rather a downgrade in graphics for a smooth framerate then stuttering performance due to the console not handling it.

On a side note, if the game comes out for PC and looks way worse than previewed, then I'll be pissed also. tongue.gif

In a perfect world, all customers would educate themselves about the games these companies play and learn about a product before purchasing. The fact is the vast majority of customers are just plain stupid and that will never change. Why do you think publishers have been able to get away with this kind of thing for far too long? The uninformed continue to buy so these companies continue the deceptive practices.

Still, despite this lack of knowledge, you cant fault a customer especially if you are intentionally playing off of that ignorance. The fault is with the companies showing one thing without clarification and delivering a substandard product by comparison to other platforms. Either they specify what platform their gameplay is run on or they be open about the possible downgrade for last gen consoles. They do neither during these demos so it it left up to the customers to use their imagination. Of course many are going to believe the game is going to look the way it was displayed. Even those who are more tech savy. Who knows, maybe the developer made huge strides with the engine and is able to produce such a lighting system on a last gen console? In a lot of cases you are somewhat left in the dark until its release. Granted, thats why you dont preorder or buy a game the day it comes out so you can read reviews and get an idea of anything the developer may have cut out of the game.

All the pubs/devs say is that it is a multiplatform title and proceed to show the game running at its fullest. You cant argue that it is not deceptive. As much as I dislike console gaming, this practice goes beyond just consoles and it needs to stop.
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On a different note, I am surprised that console players noticed missing lighting effects. Me personally I didn't watch anything about the game since the first video showing off A.I. so with that in mind I didn't go in expecting uber graphics out of my ps3. I just booted it up game looks fine, and I am once again in love with the teams art direction. I was completely immersed with the intro video... I love these games.
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You, however, down play the significance of the problems and yet you partake in the fixes. It's hypocritical.

If I dropped £1 under the sofa I wouldn't call it significant in the slightest but I'd still go under and get it...
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