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Well, it is ~7.5 year old budget hardware, not sure what people expected while maintaining a good resolution and 30-60fps

If someone told me the "good" half of that preview vid was running on ps3 at a good resolution and FPS, i would have laughed at them; so all in all this is somewhat disappointing if it was not made clear that old hardware versions would look so bad, but not all too surprising

Yes. It is not surprising to us who understand, but to those who don't, I really do feel for them. It's pretty messed up to play on those peoples' ignorance.
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So for the PC version should they also show the game running at minimum graphics settings, or better yet, every possible graphic configuration so as to not "mislead" consumers?

Do what they must to make the message clear. If that is what has to be done at these demos, then so be it.
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The truth is, they don't want to have to show a demo running on a lesser/weaker system because the appearance would affect sales.
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Change for the worse though? This seems like common practice anymore with developers. I don't buy that it was a premature design flaw or an accident. They knew, for the most part, what consoles vs pc are capable of and yet they push pc hardware to the limit in these demos and they expect me to believe it was a developmental oversight?

Well no offense to console gamers but a lot of them (if not most) are not very tech savvy which is probably the reason they're gaming on console and not a pc. The simplicity of just popping in a disc and instant gratification is appealing. I expect them to see gameplay footage and believe it is an actual representation of what the final product should look like. But the truth is you can't anymore. Some of these game's aren't even close to the way the formerly looked. It's just wrong.

I can tell just form look that Dark Souls 2 is in no way pushing the PC hardware to its limits. Even the best looking alpha footage is still pretty tame by PC standards. And like I said From software have been very clear that they are developing this with PC in mind. If console gamers don't listen to what they are told and just assuming stuff then that's hardly the developers fault. Its the same as me assuming Dark souls will run on a linux toaster form 1999 and then raging when it does not. If people make incorrect assumptions despite been told the correct info then they can blame none but themselves.

Now if the PC version is also down graded and looks like the PS3 version, then you can make the claim that there has been a downgrade in graphics as there is no longer any version of the game that looks like the E3 demonstration. Like what ubisoft did with FarCry 3.
    
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I can tell just form look that Dark Souls 2 is in no way pushing the PC hardware to its limits. Even the best looking alpha footage is still pretty tame by PC standards. And like I said From software have been very clear that they are developing this with PC in mind. If console gamers don't listen to what they are told and just assuming stuff then that's hardly the developers fault. Its the same as me assuming Dark souls will run on a linux toaster form 1999 and then raging when it does not. If people make incorrect assumptions despite been told the correct info then they can blame none but themselves.

Now if the PC version is also down graded and looks like the PS3 version, then you can make the claim that there has been a downgrade in graphics as there is no longer any version of the game that looks like the E3 demonstration. Like what ubisoft did with FarCry 3.


....who expects the PC version to push hardware to it's limits ?

Mostly all we want is higher res textures, a higher rendering resolution, and a framerate not capped at 30.
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It's not only preview footage, the beta and various build levels on the actual consoles were running with these effects in place... the fact that they were removed is "odd" I don't recall seeing anyone complaining about performance issues with them in place either.

I'm wondering if it was stripped from the PC version also.
surely not. but i assume they dumbed down the graphics so in a year they can roll it out on xbone and ps4 with the pc graphics to cash in for a second time
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You have to consider the stage of E3. You are kidding yourself if FromSoft would submit the 'lesser' version of the game for people to watch. If gamers are making purchasing decisions based on trailers, and nothing else, then that is on them.

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surely not. but i assume they dumbed down the graphics so in a year they can roll it out on xbone and ps4 with the pc graphics to cash in for a second time

I also suspect DS2 being released on next-gen consoles as well. Its a huge piece of pie they're neglecting.
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LOL Its not false ads or bait. This is the truth. Enjoy your console games.

 
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You have to consider the stage of E3. You are kidding yourself if FromSoft would submit the 'lesser' version of the game for people to watch. If gamers are making purchasing decisions based on trailers, and nothing else, then that is on them.
This isn't about the E3 footage, they showed footage in late January of this year that was claimed to be on a PS3, and it still had the lighting intact.
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Seeing this makes me sad, I have directly said that I probably wont be getting Watch Dogs on the ps4 because of the downgrade and then I see this, but I have been loving Dark Souls 2 on my ps3. Early on I noticed the bad graphics and the framerate was awful in some spots, now later on I don't even notice the graphics and there has not seemed to be any framerate drops. Now I am considering getting Watch Dogs:D
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