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Originally Posted by Mariolillo View Post

Was reading for case fans as well, The Noiseblocker M12-PS and Scythe GT caught my attention. Noctua as well although I think they are a little pricy. What would you suggest?

Keep in mind that many suggestions you read on various forums, most users have experience with only one type and brand of fan. That is why everywhere you go on the web you generally see the same few fans being suggested over and over. Generally there's only 1 or 2 people who are really experienced in their field while others seem to be more subjective and brand oriented.

Noctua tend to inflate their airflow and static pressure specs because many users who actually tried different fans vs Noctua (within the same rpm range) report Noctua having less static pressure than Scythe GT, GELID and other fans in it's class. I came to the same conclusion myself.

There is a range of Scythe GT fans (with AP-15 being the most common here), depending which rpm version you're going for but Scythe GTs tend to have a little motor noise due to it's ball bearing design.

As for Noiseblocker you may want to give them a try and see how you like them because Noiseblocker updated the bearings since their release of their NB-eLoop series and have since updated their entire line to that new bearing.

I have only tried Noiseblocker's 140mm BlackSilentPro PK-3 (pre-bearing update) but returned it and kept the GELID Wing 14 because it was quieter and pushed more air at the same rpm (1200rpm).



If you have the time and cash to throw around, I'd suggest you buy a few fans from different companies and compare them yourself. Keep the one(s) you like and return the rest. That's what I did before I settled with GELID (played with fans from 6 different companies and bearing types).
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  • AXP-100 is only 3c warmer than AXP-200
  • AXP-100 is L121 mm x W105 mm x H44 mm; 57 mm with 100 mm fan
  • AXP-200 is L153 mm x W140 mm x H60 mm; 73 mm with 140 mm fan
  • RVZ01 has 83mm CPU clearance and 120mm vent.
  • No idea what GPU clearance is. but I'm guessing 65-70mm (PCI-E slots are 20.8mm each) As 770 is double slot card it's aobut 35mm leaving about 30 for fan and spacing. . meaning a 25mm fan will only be 5mm from 770.
  • Even if vent is perfectly aligned to cooler the 140mm fan will be louder than the 100mm.

http://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/pc-hardware/cpu-coolers/2359-thermalright-axp-200-low-profile-cpu-cooler?showall=&start=5

Might be best to go with thinner fans.. Like 120mm x 13-18mm thick. Scythe Slip Stream thin SY1212SL12H would be good but it's not PWM. frown.gif
http://www.xbitlabs.com/picture/?src=/images/coolers/120mm-fan-roundup-2/143_dslips_xbt.png

Gelid Case Fan Slim 12 PL Blue might do. Don't know much about it.
http://www.gelidsolutions.com/products/index.php?lid=1&cid=2&id=84&tab=2

Review
http://www.eteknix.com/gelid-slim-12-uv-and-pl-blue-120mm-fan-review/4/
Edited by doyll - 3/21/14 at 3:54am
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Keep in mind that many suggestions you read on various forums, most users have experience with only one type and brand of fan. That is why everywhere you go on the web you generally see the same few fans being suggested over and over. Generally there's only 1 or 2 people who are really experienced in their field while others seem to be more subjective and brand oriented.

Noctua tend to inflate their airflow and static pressure specs because many users who actually tried different fans vs Noctua (within the same rpm range) report Noctua having less static pressure than Scythe GT, GELID and other fans in it's class. I came to the same conclusion myself.

There is a range of Scythe GT fans (with AP-15 being the most common here), depending which rpm version you're going for but Scythe GTs tend to have a little motor noise due to it's ball bearing design.

As for Noiseblocker you may want to give them a try and see how you like them because Noiseblocker updated the bearings since their release of their NB-eLoop series and have since updated their entire line to that new bearing.

I have only tried Noiseblocker's 140mm BlackSilentPro PK-3 (pre-bearing update) but returned it and kept the GELID Wing 14 because it was quieter and pushed more air at the same rpm (1200rpm).



If you have the time and cash to throw around, I'd suggest you buy a few fans from different companies and compare them yourself. Keep the one(s) you like and return the rest. That's what I did before I settled with GELID (played with fans from 6 different companies and bearing types).

Yeah, it's been difficult to decide on which fan to get because of so few complete reviews and that specs are not standard. Nevertheless, the fans I was looking at I read them mostly from silentpcreview, don't know if it's a completely legit site but it seems to me it is.

I was trying to avoid what you suggest, buy different fans and try, but it seems I will still have to do it. Not with a wide variety, but two or three maybe tongue.gif
post #24 of 76
Watch out for the "cooling experts" on OCN who will come in with their "wisdom" and tell you that you can't have positive/negative pressure in your case because it will blow off/suck in your side panels if pressure exists there... It happens.

That said, I hear great things about Titan Kukris and the earlier mentioned JetFlows from CM.
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  • AXP-100 is only 3c warmer than AXP-200
  • AXP-100 is L121 mm x W105 mm x H44 mm; 57 mm with 100 mm fan
  • AXP-200 is L153 mm x W140 mm x H60 mm; 73 mm with 140 mm fan
  • RVZ01 has 83mm CPU clearance and 120mm vent.
  • No idea what GPU clearance is. but I'm guessing 65-70mm (PCI-E slots are 20.8mm each) As 770 is double slot card it's aobut 35mm leaving about 30 for fan and spacing. . meaning a 25mm fan will only be 5mm from 770.
  • Even if vent is perfectly aligned to cooler the 140mm fan will be louder than the 100mm.

http://www.nikktech.com/main/articles/pc-hardware/cpu-coolers/2359-thermalright-axp-200-low-profile-cpu-cooler?showall=&start=5

Might be best to go with thinner fans.. Like 120mm x 13-18mm thick. Scythe Slip Stream thin SY1212SL12H would be good but it's not PWM. frown.gif
http://www.xbitlabs.com/picture/?src=/images/coolers/120mm-fan-roundup-2/143_dslips_xbt.png

Gelid Case Fan Slim 12 PL Blue might do. Don't know much about it.
http://www.gelidsolutions.com/products/index.php?lid=1&cid=2&id=84&tab=2

Review
http://www.eteknix.com/gelid-slim-12-uv-and-pl-blue-120mm-fan-review/4/

All right, AXP-100 it is! Looks one of the best options to me from everything else I've read, and well you had experience with it and can vouch for it so I'm good there.

This is the case guide diagram:
http://i.imgur.com/KA29g5K.png

68mm if you take out the fan. Card should be about 35mm so 8mm of distance between fans and video card.
So you tell me if slim fans or not with only 8mm.

If it serves as reference, the RVZ01 page says that fans run at 1500RPM. The case fan adapter has 3 pins on one side, two on the other. If the one with two pins means less RPM, then the CPU fan is running at a slower RPM. The GPU fan is closer to my ears than the CPU fan, and for me it's quiet enough. I can hear it if I make the effort to try and hear it, but everything must be quiet for me to be able to detect it. If there is ambient noise the fans are "silent".
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Watch out for the "cooling experts" on OCN who will come in with their "wisdom" and tell you that you can't have positive/negative pressure in your case because it will blow off/suck in your side panels if pressure exists there... It happens.

That said, I hear great things about Titan Kukris and the earlier mentioned JetFlows from CM.

.... hahahaha, the case panels will be sucked inside.. hahahahaha you made my day lmaosmiley.gif

Thanks for the fan suggestion, the Titan one looks good.
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All right, AXP-100 it is! Looks one of the best options to me from everything else I've read, and well you had experience with it and can vouch for it so I'm good there.

This is the case guide diagram:
http://i.imgur.com/KA29g5K.png

68mm if you take out the fan. Card should be about 35mm so 8mm of distance between fans and video card.
So you tell me if slim fans or not with only 8mm.

If it serves as reference, the RVZ01 page says that fans run at 1500RPM. The case fan adapter has 3 pins on one side, two on the other. If the one with two pins means less RPM, then the CPU fan is running at a slower RPM. The GPU fan is closer to my ears than the CPU fan, and for me it's quiet enough. I can hear it if I make the effort to try and hear it, but everything must be quiet for me to be able to detect it. If there is ambient noise the fans are "silent".

FWIR NT06 Pro gives better results because it takes air out of the motherboard area instead of recirculating (in case of AXP-100) and it's cheaper, will also fit in the RVZ01. Another thing I read was that Gelid Silent fans are extremely good! I read a lot about this and that was my conclusion, hope it helps! biggrin.gif
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I'm worried that 25mm thick fans will be so close to the CPU fan and GPU fans that they will create noise. That is why I'm suggesting slim 120mm fans.

When Prolimatech Ultra Sleek Vortex 14 first came I doubted their performance and had to eat humble pie. wink.gif
http://www.overclock.net/t/1405453/prolimatech-ultra-sleek-vortex-noctua-nh-d14/0_20

I suspect the 120mm version to be good as well.
http://www.prolimatech.com/en/products/detail.asp?id=2722&subid=2729#showtab

Not sure it's the best yet, but it's in the running.
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All right, AXP-100 it is! Looks one of the best options to me from everything else I've read, and well you had experience with it and can vouch for it so I'm good there.

This is the case guide diagram:
http://i.imgur.com/KA29g5K.png

68mm if you take out the fan. Card should be about 35mm so 8mm of distance between fans and video card.
So you tell me if slim fans or not with only 8mm.

If it serves as reference, the RVZ01 page says that fans run at 1500RPM. The case fan adapter has 3 pins on one side, two on the other. If the one with two pins means less RPM, then the CPU fan is running at a slower RPM. The GPU fan is closer to my ears than the CPU fan, and for me it's quiet enough. I can hear it if I make the effort to try and hear it, but everything must be quiet for me to be able to detect it. If there is ambient noise the fans are "silent".

That's what I'm thinking. I'm afraid 8mm or less between fans will increase noise.

4 pin fan has ground, power, rpm and PWM
3 pin fan has ground, power and rpm.
2 pin fan has ground and power.
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That's what I'm thinking. I'm afraid 8mm or less between fans will increase noise.

4 pin fan has ground, power, rpm and PWM
3 pin fan has ground, power and rpm.
2 pin fan has ground and power.

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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

I'm worried that 25mm thick fans will be so close to the CPU fan and GPU fans that they will create noise. That is why I'm suggesting slim 120mm fans.

When Prolimatech Ultra Sleek Vortex 14 first came I doubted their performance and had to eat humble pie. wink.gif
http://www.overclock.net/t/1405453/prolimatech-ultra-sleek-vortex-noctua-nh-d14/0_20

I suspect the 120mm version to be good as well.
http://www.prolimatech.com/en/products/detail.asp?id=2722&subid=2729#showtab

Not sure it's the best yet, but it's in the running.

Phew! I'm gonna check out that fan as well biggrin.gif
And thanks for the pins explanation
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