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Generally. No, TLC used in flash drives and the like sucks. TLC used in Samsung SSDs is good quality, though it does suffer from its inherent problems. Anyway, people were saying the same stuff about MLC when it came out to replace SLC in consumer drives. The buffer? Performance is decently consistent, at least I think. Samsung controllers are very inconsistent so that's really a nonissue.
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Might want to add this to the OP, from Anandtech :
Crucial M550 Review: 128GB, 256GB, 512GB and 1TB Models Tested
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There are so many reasons why the M550 could be one of the best SSDs in the market. It has the best-in-class encryption support (along with Samsung 840 EVO) and it's also one of the only consumer-grade drives with power loss protection. Heck, it even supports DevSleep to enable low-power states in mobile platforms. Basically it has all the bells and whistles one could hope from a client drive. But there is one big "but": the performance. The M550 is supposed to be Crucial's high performance offering but compared to other high-end drives in the market, the performance is average at best. It's an upgrade over the M500, that's for sure, but that's not enough to make it to the medals podium.

and Techreport as well
Crucial's M550 solid-state drive reviewed


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Its not only about power loss protection, its about MCL nand as well, this drive is better then EVO.

People need to just drop this whole write durability thing. It is no longer a problem with any modern SSD when it comes to consumers. A 1TB EVO is capable of around 2.5 petabytes of writes (2,500 cycles of 1TB nand) before NAND failure. You will replace both these SSDs with a much bigger/faster SSD years, if not decades, before failure even with TLC NAND.

I haven't lost power to my computer in... 10 years or so? I assume power users like ourselves use a UPS for their comps. I'll take speed... thumb.gif
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Yeah the drive is not using nasty tricks like turbo write to achieve such speeds

The EVOs achieve better/same writes than that with it's turbo write feature disabled though. I think AnandTech sums it up nicely:
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If you're a light user and price is the key purchase factor, then the M500 suffices and saves you money. However, if you're a power user and want performance, then it's better to look for the SanDisk Extreme II or Seagate SSD 600, or grab the Samsung 840 EVO 500GB on sale.

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I just can't believe that SSD's are gaining in size and dropping in price so fast. By comparison HDD manufacturers have been really slow to push more capacity, I wouldnt be surprised if in 2 years time there are consumer level SSD's that exceed the capacity of consumer HDD's.
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I just can't believe that SSD's are gaining in size and dropping in price so fast. By comparison HDD manufacturers have been really slow to push more capacity, I wouldnt be surprised if in 2 years time there are consumer level SSD's that exceed the capacity of consumer HDD's.

Right? M500s are on excellent sales, if not permanent price drops, on Amazon. $110 for 240GB. These are better than the best Black Friday prices I saw, when I thought my $130 Seagate 600 was an amazing deal. I had started looking at 256GiB drives for my laptop about 10 months ago, and the best prices were $160 or so. 128GiB drives were $100ish at best. When a brand new drive MSRPs for nearly 50 cents per gigabyte ($530/1024GB usable), you know the industry is going awesome places.
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People need to just drop this whole write durability thing. It is no longer a problem with any modern SSD when it comes to consumers. A 1TB EVO is capable of around 2.5 petabytes of writes (2,500 cycles of 1TB nand) before NAND failure. You will replace both these SSDs with a much bigger/faster SSD years, if not decades, before failure even with TLC NAND.

I haven't lost power to my computer in... 10 years or so? I assume power users like ourselves use a UPS for their comps. I'll take speed... thumb.gif
The EVOs achieve better/same writes than that with it's turbo write feature disabled though. I think AnandTech sums it up nicely:

Its not only about durability, its about performance as well.






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I just can't believe that SSD's are gaining in size and dropping in price so fast. By comparison HDD manufacturers have been really slow to push more capacity, I wouldnt be surprised if in 2 years time there are consumer level SSD's that exceed the capacity of consumer HDD's.

It seems like you are getting great deals, but honestly businesses are still overcharging quite a bit on HDs and SSDs. That's why we keep seeing all these massive sales, but in reality... My small business is able to get 10x 1TB EVOS for $300 each and 40x 4TB WD Reds for $105 each. I can't imagine what bigger companies like Amazon are paying when they buy 1000 of them.

Sadly, very few people can throw $4000 into a bulk purchase.. and even if they can not just anyone can get these prices. I've been tempted to start selling to OCN users for 90% of what Amazon charges, but I'm not sure if OCN allows reselling anymore.
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Its not only about durability, its about performance as well.

Well you can't compare the performance of a 120GB drive to a 240GB drive either. After 240GB, TLC vs MLC difference is very small on those charts. A lot of this comes down to firmware and the controller too. Those tests don't show the M550 and MLC is not always faster than TLC, so it's really not an accurate way to measure it.

Every modern SSD on the market is so far beyond what we need for the best real world performance either way, and in my opinion it really comes down to price per gig. Toss NAND type out the window and get the biggest SSD you can afford as a consumer. The bigger it is, the more writes you can do, and a 500GB TLC SSD is usually going to have more durability and speed than a 250GB MLC SSD.

As it stands, the M550 cost about 15%-20% more than an EVO and trades blows with it even on benchmarks, if anything it is slower on average and has less consistency. Real world performance will never be a noticeable difference between the two though. If the M550 was the same price as the EVO, I think it would be competitive.
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Dang I would a jumped for a 1TB EVO at that price tongue.gif
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With my rate of writes i have ~ 7.2TB writes on my 8GB SSD for 3 years. It will take 30 years for 72TB. Personally if SSD can last more then 5 years its all good.
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It seems like you are getting great deals, but honestly businesses are still overcharging quite a bit on HDs and SSDs. That's why we keep seeing all these massive sales, but in reality... My small business is able to get 10x 1TB EVOS for $300 each and 40x 4TB WD Reds for $105 each. I can't imagine what bigger companies like Amazon are paying when they buy 1000 of them.

Sadly, very few people can throw $4000 into a bulk purchase.. and even if they can not just anyone can get these prices. I've been tempted to start selling to OCN users for 90% of what Amazon charges, but I'm not sure if OCN allows reselling anymore.

Ah, the middleman. How my wallet loathes thee. Vendor rep perhaps?

Do remember that this is a new drive. EVOs MSRP was $650. This is $120, or 18%, less.
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Corsair Dominator Platinum - 2x8GB Crucial M500 - 960GB Samsung 840 - 250GB WD Scorpio Blue - 1TB 
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ADATA SP900 - 64GB Scythe BIG Shuriken 2 Rev. B PNY Quadro 600 blower Windows 10 
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ASUS VE247H - 1080p Gateway FPD1960 - 1280x1024 Samsung S20D300 - 900p, portrait Rosewill RK9000I - Cherry MX Blue 
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Rosewill HIVE 650W Riotoro CR1080 SteelSeries Rival 100 CyberPower 1500PFCLCD 
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AMD A10-7870K ASRock FM2A88X-ITX+ G.Skill Ripjaws X - 2x4GB @ 2400MT/s Samsung 840 120GB 
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Evercool EC-HPS-810CP Windows 7 Pro 64-bit PicoPSU-120-WI-25 Mini-Box M350 
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