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Hi All,

I currently have a 965BE OC to 4.0 might be able to get a little higher with my Phanteks cooler. Neweeg has the 8350 on sale right now. Would it be worth the upgrade to it? even with OC'ing it?

Mainly used for games such has GW2, LoL, Diablo 3 and some other games.

Thanks,
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post #2 of 46
Depends what your budget is. The 8320/8350 (same chip, 8350 is just a factory OC) will massively outperform your CPU, but remember that you will need a new motherboard to go with it.
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Here is a little anecdote, I'm not sure if it will completely fit your situation, but at least will give you and others something to think about in trying to find the best path for you.

I just went from 965 BE OC'd to 3.8 to an 8350 OC'd to 4.8 (video card and memory stayed the same) and the difference was night and day. Even at 4.0 on the 8350, it was still night and day. Games that I could only turn the setting up to med-high and keep 60+ fps, now are maxed out with 60+ fps. Farcry 3, Crysis 3, Metro Last Light to name a few.

BUT

I also upgraded my motherboard MSI nf980-g65 to a Crosshair V Formula Z. I know that had a lot to do with it. You and I also have similarly performing video cards. generic performance benchmarks puts the 8350 at almost TWICE the processing power.

So, take all that with a grain of salt.

EDIT: I will also agree with Yorkston, You will likely need a new mobo. MSI AM3+ motherboards are iffy, especially when it comes to overclocking. They have shoddy VRM's. The only way I was able to OC my board was because I upgraded the VRM cooling.
Edited by WizardontheJob - 3/18/14 at 1:59pm
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Guild wars 2 and Diablo 3 are better with intel cpu.which is your resolution?
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Thread Starter 
Thanks for the quick replies.

Gives me something else to think about I was hoping to use the same motherboard.

And suggestions on a decent board?

Probably get shunned for saying this might consider going i5 4670k than if my current motherboard is now good.

Resolution is only 1680x1050

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Well if I were you,I would search a used i5 2500k/i5 3570k/i5 4670k(new)/i7 2600k/3770k(better with i7 or i5 haswell-k) and a z68/z77(used)/z87(new) motherboard with more than 6power phases(vrm)
post #7 of 46
For AMD, it looks like newegg has a combo with the 8350 and Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0. Asus boards are generally solid for overclocking.


For the 4670k, the Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H is a great board and combo'd with the CPU, or if you want something more expensive you could go with a sabretooth/maximus.
post #8 of 46
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Guess my next question is how much longer will AM3+ be around versus 1150. Probably a whole new topic within its self.

May just go with the 8350 for now see what my motherboard can handle and upgrade from there. still have 24 hours left on the sale to pull the trigger on it.

8350 + mb = around $300

4670k + mb = close to $400
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post #9 of 46
It will be hard to tell since we dont know if programmers will optimize/support for vishera cpu in the future.and we dont know if 4 cores will suffice for new games,so it`s a better bet to upgrade with the hardware we have atm(at least on gaming but on application the trend is support to multithreads/cores)
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It will be hard to tell since we dont know if programmers will optimize/support for vishera cpu in the future.and we dont know if 4 cores will suffice for new games,so it`s a better bet to upgrade with the hardware we have atm(at least on gaming but on application the trend is support to multithreads/cores)

It's a pretty safe bet if you ask me. The consoles all have weak 8 core CPUs. Anyone who makes a cross platform game that depends on single threaded performance (or even just 4 cores) is going to have a lousy game that disappoints gamers. 1.6ghz Jaguar core by itself is not so strong. Even the A4-5000 I'm on sort of needs 4 cores to be decent, I wouldn't have taken anything with less than 4 Jaguar cores.

As usual, I'm going to herald the fact that an FX 8350 is a lot more fun to overclock. 4670k overclocking will basically be raising the multiplier, bumping the voltage a tiny bit, and then looking for the Great Wall of Intel where 22nm Intel chips just fall on their face and can't do anything more without tons of voltage
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