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I don't know which Surface Pro tablet to get. The first gen or the second gen.

I know it is way too early to decide, but I want to have a goal to set on getting one of those tablet.
I'll be getting it probably on August for Back To School Deals or maybe 2014 Black Friday, but I hope I can get it on August or basically before my 2014 Fall Semester start.

As for tasks, I'll be using Microsoft Office, maybe Visual Studio C++ 2012 Express and other everyday use such as emails, YouTube, twitch/GameStream, Facebook, Twitter, surfing and etc.

As for price point, I hope I can get it cheap as possible if they went in sale.

However, Surface Pro Refurbish is cheap, but I am curious about the battery life because I believe Surface Pro 2 has better battery life, right?

What is your thoughts, guys?
     
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I was just given a Dell Venue 11 I5 (Surface PRO 2 copycat) version to play with and evaluate.... and I like it. 128 GB SSD, 4 GB ram, and 10 hours of battery life. Been playing with it a bit.. and have installed some apps on it (Office). Runs pretty smooth... and METRO finally makes sense on a tablet! lol!

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Dell-Venue-11-Pro-i5-7130BK-Touchscreen-Tablet-and-Slim-Keyboard/productID.289565500

Haven't actually used the Surface Pro much... or the SP2... so can't say much there. Comparison chart here > http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Surface-Pro-2/productID.286866600
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I think that if you will be ready only in August, the Surface pro won't be available anymore. If at that time, you wan't to go Microsoft, your only choice will be one of the Microsoft surface pro 2 models.
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Pro 2 has nearly double the battery life compared to the Pro. The first gen's battery life is similar to that of my 15" VAIO Flip, and I have a much larger screen and dedicated GPU. If there's any reason to get a Haswell, it's the super low power consumption in mobile devices like the Surface compared to Ivy Bridge. The iGPU in the Pro 2 is also significantly faster than in the Pro.

Are you looking into the Surface for pen functionality? If yes, then Pro 2, VAIO Tap 11, and the Thinkpad Helix are pretty much the only way to go unless you want to explore convertibles. If no, then you have a ton more options.

Between the Pro 2 and Tap 11, the Pro 2 has a more solid construction overall, but the Tap 11 has a much wider variety of configurations (from Pentium to i7, all Haswell-based). Tap 11 also has built-in NFC and is sold with the keyboard attachment, so you don't have to buy that as an extra. I've seen open box and refurbished Tap 11's go for less than $700 so that's a viable option if you want to save money. The Helix is by far the most expensive of this group and is way beyond the Pro 2's and Tap 11's price tag in similar configurations, and the Helix is only offered with Ivy Bridge at the moment, and its battery life is only better if you carry the included keyboard attachment with you. There's also the Samsung ATIV 700T, but it carries the same specs as the Pro 1 and price of the Pro 2, so nevermind that. The Pro, Pro 2, and Tap 11 all use mSATA SSD if you're planning to buy the least expensive one and upgrade SSD later, though the Pro and Pro 2 are a bit of a pain to take apart.

If you're looking at convertibles with pen input, then you can look into the VAIO Flip, VAIO Duo, Thinkpad Yoga, Fujitsu T904. Let's start off by crossing off the VAIO Duo since the convertible mechanism doesn't seem to be able to take a beating at all. Every Fry's I've walked into has had their demo Duos half destroyed. Skipping over to Thinkpad Yoga, it has a very solid construction and sports Wacom digitizer just like on the Pro 2, but you have to be very careful which one you buy. The pen digitizer is an option on the Thinkpad Yoga, and most walk-in retail stores don't carry that version. Next, the Fujitsu T904, the crème de la crème of convertibles. It's what all the new business-class Thinkpads with pen digitizers should have been, but prices start at 1600 Euros for its non-convertible brother so it'll cost you a kidney or two. The VAIO Flip, especially if you're scouting for refurbished prices, is probably the most realistic machine in this category, and I'll explain why.

Best Buys have had a ton of returns on the Flip because 8.1 update bricked a lot of the machines. However, the way to update to 8.1 properly is to go through all the VAIO updates first then do the 8.1 update. Fortunately for us, most consumers don't know that and opted to return their machines after bricking them, creating a huge inventory of open box Flips. Best Buy is flexible on prices on open box items and they're highly motivated to get rid of their inventory on the Flips, and I got my Flip 15A for less than $800, down from its MSRP of $1249, considering it comes with the i7-4500U, 8GB DDR3L-1600, WD Black 16GB+1TB SSHD, GT 735M, and NFC. The Flip 15A is also the only active pen-enabled convertible that carries a dedicated GPU. It's also the most DIY-friendly convertible if you want to upgrade RAM, SSD/HDD, and/or wireless card, or change the battery. I have since jammed in 16GB DDR3L-1600 and my 256GB Samsung 830.

However, if you don't need the pen functionality at all, then you're open to quite a bit of a selection. smile.gif
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there's any reason to get a Haswell, it's the super low power consumption in mobile devices like the Surface compared to Ivy Bridge. The iGPU in the Pro 2 is also significantly faster than in the Pro.thank you zgjULx
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