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I'm just glad they increased it to 1080 for DK2. Based on what I see at PAX East I'll be getting a DK2 right away. Seems silly not to get the kit that's only a small step below the consumer release version.
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VR games don't need lots of pretty graphics to be compelling experiences. Playing Minecraft with DK1 was amazing due to the sense of scale and being "in the game".

From what I understand, high FPS is a big part of reducing simulator sickness and personally I would gladly sacrifice eye candy for a more comfortable experience. With DK1, I couldn't use it for more than an hour or so without feeling slightly sick to my stomach.

Minecraft is really neat through the DK1. I didn't have stomach issue, but my eyes were strained after a while. I couldn't ever get a comfortable lens combination. I do not wear glasses and my eye checkup last year was slightly higher than 20/20, but I had to do a lot of adjustment to make me feel like I wasn't using a magic eye to get things to focus correctly. My friends said they didn't have issues with my rift, so I'm either sensitive to it or it will not adjust properly for me. I'm hoping they make the calibration more seamless in the future.
 
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I just kind of wish I knew a time frame or at lease a intended hardware spec target for their consumer version. I’m very tempted to put in a preorder. patience is not one of my strongest traits.redface.gif
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Minecraft is really neat through the DK1. I didn't have stomach issue, but my eyes were strained after a while. I couldn't ever get a comfortable lens combination. I do not wear glasses and my eye checkup last year was slightly higher than 20/20, but I had to do a lot of adjustment to make me feel like I wasn't using a magic eye to get things to focus correctly. My friends said they didn't have issues with my rift, so I'm either sensitive to it or it will not adjust properly for me. I'm hoping they make the calibration more seamless in the future.

There are some other distortions that can cause these issues even if the sight is ok far/near sight wise. Astigmatism and such, for example. That is why I'm hoping these will work also with glasses and/or one can get some custom lenses for it if so desiring. Ideally the glass mounts would be something which you can take some existing lenses as an example, walk to a local glass shop and get them to do you a personal lenses based on your individual needs. Like with buying glasses, pick something you like and they will make the lenses fit into whatever you picked.

I am tempted to get a devkit TBH but if the consumer version releases also this year then I probably could not afford that too soon after the devkit. Devkit has some other nice features that might be interesting to play around ofc, like for example that latency measurement things. Not that I would have much time to learn that API and play around trying, for example, to get MatLAB to visualize some data-sets on Occulus or something like that wink.gif
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There are some other distortions that can cause these issues even if the sight is ok far/near sight wise. Astigmatism and such, for example. That is why I'm hoping these will work also with glasses and/or one can get some custom lenses for it if so desiring. Ideally the glass mounts would be something which you can take some existing lenses as an example, walk to a local glass shop and get them to do you a personal lenses based on your individual needs. Like with buying glasses, pick something you like and they will make the lenses fit into whatever you picked.

I am tempted to get a devkit TBH but if the consumer version releases also this year then I probably could not afford that too soon after the devkit. Devkit has some other nice features that might be interesting to play around ofc, like for example that latency measurement things. Not that I would have much time to learn that API and play around trying, for example, to get MatLAB to visualize some data-sets on Occulus or something like that wink.gif

My problem was that the middle of the lens was sharp but around the outside of the lens was not. If I kept my eyes looking completely straight forward then it was decent, but that's not natural. Your eyes move without your head moving sometimes and when I did that I saw the blur.

Here is what the screen looked like:



It was not dependent on where my eyes were. If I looked straight ahead then I saw the clear spot in the middle, but if I moved my eyes, for example, upwards while keeping my head fixed I would see the blur. I found that it took a lot of adjustment to reduce the blur. The reason I don't think it is my eyes is because it was not dependent on where I was looking with my eyes. I do have deep set eyes compared to my friends, so maybe the included lens could not get close enough to my eyes?
 
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So can't wait until these are a little more consumer friendly. This (or Valve VR) and games like DayZ would be amazing.
    
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I just kind of wish I knew a time frame or at lease a intended hardware spec target for their consumer version. I’m very tempted to put in a preorder. patience is not one of my strongest traits.redface.gif

Well CCCP's standalone for Eve is nearing completion it's a OR launch title. They have hinted pretty openingly that they want it out no later than Q4 of 2014. With OR stating that DK2 is pretty much the consumer model (minus comfort/style) and maybe a few other minor tweaks I"m getting pretty confident in assuming a Nov/Dec 2014 release of the first wave of consumer models. I expect a yearly update of the tech as well.

I'm buying my DK2 soon, and I'll buy a consumer model as well.
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I will probably get Occulus this year (if it releases) and will wait with my first 4K screen until next year. Have already couple Eyefinity arrays to give me the screen area so Occulus would probably be different enough experience to justify that. Assuming the consumer version has decent enough specs and as it stands there seems to be no reason to assume it will not. Even the second dev model is already pretty decent. Would just hope at least 1440 reso for the end consumer model.

Now I have no experience with 3D stuff at all, but as far as I understand the Occulus games are usually controlled with a controller? Not with keyboard and mouse. Wonder if they come out with some new controller as well specifically for Occulus. If not then hopefully Valve manages to release their Steam controller by then - I'm not familiar at all with controllers, but the Steam one looks pretty decent on paper now that they have dropped their touchscreen in their new revision. Then again if Occulus would release a special controller for the VR that might be pretty awesome as well - just out of the blue I'm imaging some kind of cross-breed between trackball and joystic thingy for two hands with plenty of scroll-wheels and buttons in spots that make sense. For VR experience I'm just thinking that it might be useful to have a bit more degrees of freedom in your control method than the traditional mouse. Keyboard has a lot of degrees of freedom, but it could be inconvenient to use if you can't glance at it to get your bearing if you lift your hand from it for a second.
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I cancelled my preorder. Im just going to wait it out. It will be good though.
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I cancelled my preorder. Im just going to wait it out. It will be good though.

Also, just think how many polished VR experiences there will be once the consumer version finally debuts. One of my favourites is Sightline which I will give some shameless advertising as they started their crowdfunding campaign and looks awesome.

 

DK2 just doesn't seem worth it unless you have money to spare, otherwise it's better off getting better computers/VR peripherals for when CV1 comes out, and you want be hitting 85fps+

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