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Hi im ox. I have a amd powered pc. Im new to online gaming.

what I need help with is my video card. I had a xfx7750 it was okay.
Right now on loan im running a EVGA GEFORCE GTX 560.

it blows my xfx card away.

So what would be a good $200-300 solution . I dont want to put my xfx card back in this rig.
Some one mentioned bandwidth in a post I scoured . But I dont know what thats refering too.

so yeah can I get some info every thing I have read is from other sights cards and years. So as for whats up too date info. Ive read im not sure whats what.

600 wat psu
amd vishera 4350 4.2 4 core black edition
gigabyte 990-fxa-ud3 mobo. Am3+
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Important: what is the brand and model of your PSU?

 

 

(also, your signature says "HowBot", but it's actually "HWBot"; there's no 'o')

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If you want something around the level of your friend's 560, a 750ti or R7 265 would outperform it for only $150. What games are you playing and at what resolution?


But to answer the question-

~$200: R9 270x
~$230: GTX 760
~$300: R9 280 or a second-hand R9 280x or GTX 770.

"Bandwidth" in video cards refers to memory bandwidth, a combination of memory bus width and memory clock speed. Your old 7750 is only a 128-bit bus so it may be bottlenecking your performance, depending on our resolution. Memory usually takes a back seat to core speed in terms of importance though, unless you are running 1440p+.
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Psu brand off the top my head I belive is a coolermaster unit.

I play world of tanks . @ 1080 i belive it 1920x xxxx what ever the genral 1080 is.

So this 560 is 256 bit. I belive I wana stay in the 256bit . Im able to run max graphics cept water and shadows off.rendering 60-125fps slighlty oced from 810-840. Memory stock speed

wot is going introduce havok to its game physics . If any of you know about that. Its going add more effects from what little i understand.

I dont think I want another ati card.

Hows evga zotac or msi for cards in genral. Thise are a few names that keep coming up. I will also look uobthe listed cards while im on lunch. smile.gif
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Can you find out which Cooler Master PSU you have?

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Zotac and PNY are considered "cheaper" brands for Nvidia. MSI, Asus, Gigabye, and EVGA are all high-quality and well-respected manufacturers, with EVGA being considered god-tier for customer service.

World of Tanks is a poorly-optimized and CPU-heavy game, which is what physics would affect (not the GPU). I have a 3570k@4.2 and a 780 classified and WoT still chokes and dies at high foliage/shadow settings, so keep that in mind.
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I've had great luck with EVGA, XFX, and Gigabyte for graphics cards. Out of all of them I'd say EVGA, whenever my next graphics card update happens it will probably be EVGA if it's a Nvidia card.



According to this chart the game should be playable on max with a 750 TI. If you are happy with how the 560 performs the 750TI out performs it by about 17% according to the benchmarks I've looked at.
560
750TI

I'd have more concerns about your CPU. I've seen some really poor benchmarks with the fx 4350 vs it's i5-i3 counter part. I've also seen benchmarks where they are basically equivalent, it's really game dependent and I don't know anything about World of Tanks. There are certain games that are heavily CPU dependent and that don't multi-core very well and these could be a big issue with your CPU.

As for buying a $300 GPU: I think your cpu will bottleneck on a lot of games before the graphics card would. Upgrading processor and mobo would be a much more costly option sadly, new mobo, cpu, and possibly operating system would be well over $300 to upgrade plus you'd need to buy a graphics card still.
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World of Tanks is, for all intents and purposes, a single-threaded game(only audio on 2nd thread). So the CPU is definitely a concern.
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Ive logged my cpu its between 30-50% on all the maps . would it still be bottle necking there?
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Ive logged my cpu its between 30-50% on all the maps . would it still be bottle necking there?

Research how those load percentages look like on each single core, not on the whole CPU. It might be that one of the cores is at 100% even if it shows 50% for the whole CPU. Those 100% would then be what limits the FPS, not the graphics card. In that case, you would already be happy with a modest card like that GTX 750 Ti.
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