Originally Posted by AndroidVageta
See, for me these graphics SCREAM next-generation. Now, sure, they aren't really that THAT big of a jump (nothing like PS1 to PS3) but considering the hardware in the consoles and the fact that even next-gen games have to be held back for the X1 and PS4 I still think "The Division" looks absolutely wonderful!
From the over all detail of all the objects all around the environment to the lighting model to the physics and particles...say what you will but this is, so far seen, the most next-gen game to date based on technology that I'VE seen.
I mean, really, are you not watching the same videos I am? How can you not say this is next-gen? I think it's possible there's a lot more going on that you aren't noticing or don't know what's being used/what it is. I'm a giant graphics whore and even my jaw is on the ground with every new video or image I see of this game.
Are you talking about this gameplay video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3A1LaGbmlA
or the engine video in the OP? The engine video has some earmarks of next-generation like improvements to me, but that's not gameplay ...
To me, the gameplay video basically looks like higher resolution textures, maybe a few bells and whistles in terms of lighting and particles and physics, but nothing that really looks to me like a qualitative leap in graphics quality that I would take to represent "next-gen." It looks like an incremental improvement across most areas ... there isn't even anything in here I haven't seen before, which would also be a requirement of "next-gen" in my view.
Oh, and one other thing. I don't hold in high regard the large game studios and publishers, nor the console makers, so I don't make excuses for them like "well considering the hardware of the PS4 and X1, this is pretty good... "
To me, that means, "the game doesn't look that much better than the previous gen because Sony and Microsoft skimped on the hardware." You don't reset the bar of your expectations lower because corporations like Sony and Microsoft can't manage to bring better quality products to market, or have chosen not to.
Some of you seem so eager to be excited about a game, you'll take whatever is given to you and rationalize it to yourself ... I don't really understand that. Not to mention, it costs you money. It's an almost slavish disposition towards the large gaming corporations ... give us whatever you want and we'll cheer for it.
This is going off-topic a bit, but it's almost like the recession broke people's willingness to stand up to corporations ... just like in the job market, they're more willing to take whatever is given to them and not speak up too loudly about asking for more. All I remember is that before 2007 or so, we were still getting high quality PC games from large publishers like EA that really pushed boundaries (i.e., Crysis), didn't compromise on innovation, and didn't require crowd-funding to be brought to the market. This never happens today.Edited by Robertdt - 3/21/14 at 12:40pm