Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Water Cooling › Coolant Medium
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Coolant Medium

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
Hello all,

It's been a while since I've built a PC, but I'm straying away from Macs. I'm slowly getting the parts for my build, so far it's a Corsair 250D, Asus Impact, Bitspower motherboard waterblock. Planning on getting the Koolance RP 1250. Graphics card, undecided.

My question is what do most manufacturers recommend for a coolant? I'm thinking about using a blend of propylene glycol.
post #2 of 19

Distilled water. Nothing more. Maybe few drop of PKnuke or equivalent.

Zaytsev
(24 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770k Asus P8P67 Deluxe Asus R9 290 x2 Samsung Wonder Ram 2x4GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Western Digital Black 1TB Samsung Evo 120GB Seagate Barracuda ST3000DM001 3TB Rasa CPU block 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XSPC RS240 Radiator Feser Black UV Tubing D5 Vario 4x Gentle Typhoon + 6 Corsair SP 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
Koolance 360 30fpi Windows 7 Professionnal Dell U2211H Asus VG248QE 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky Overclock.net Edition DK9008G2 PRO Red NZXT Hale90 V2 1000w NZXT Switch 810 white Logitech G500s 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Goliathus Ohm Asus Xonar DX 7.1 AudioTechnica ATH-M50 
  hide details  
Reply
Zaytsev
(24 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 3770k Asus P8P67 Deluxe Asus R9 290 x2 Samsung Wonder Ram 2x4GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Western Digital Black 1TB Samsung Evo 120GB Seagate Barracuda ST3000DM001 3TB Rasa CPU block 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XSPC RS240 Radiator Feser Black UV Tubing D5 Vario 4x Gentle Typhoon + 6 Corsair SP 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
Koolance 360 30fpi Windows 7 Professionnal Dell U2211H Asus VG248QE 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky Overclock.net Edition DK9008G2 PRO Red NZXT Hale90 V2 1000w NZXT Switch 810 white Logitech G500s 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Goliathus Ohm Asus Xonar DX 7.1 AudioTechnica ATH-M50 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 19
What manufacturers' recommend and what the community recommends is completely different. From manufacturer to manufacturer they all prescribe different premixed coolants to be used along with their products other wise warranty is voided. But because the watercooling community is for the most part intelligent we prefer H2O, distilled H2O. You'll also need a biocide to kill the nasty algae that is capable of being harbored in your loop. IandH Deadwater is a easy one to get. You can also pick up some copper sulfate, dehydrated or hydrated doesn't matter, and just add until the water is saturated; OR be lazy and add a little crystal or two. thumb.gif
Wild One
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770k z77 up5 780 CLASSY.  Mushkin Redline 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOS
Mushkin  Sandisk Ultra 256gb Barracuda 2TB Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
asus 27" 1080p 27" 1440p Ducky shine 3 1000w OCZ ZX 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Enthoo Luxe DeathAdder Chroma XTRAC Ripper XL HAHAHA LOTS OF IT 
OtherOther
Lamp Coffee mug 
  hide details  
Reply
Wild One
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770k z77 up5 780 CLASSY.  Mushkin Redline 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOS
Mushkin  Sandisk Ultra 256gb Barracuda 2TB Windows 7 Ultimate 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
asus 27" 1080p 27" 1440p Ducky shine 3 1000w OCZ ZX 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Enthoo Luxe DeathAdder Chroma XTRAC Ripper XL HAHAHA LOTS OF IT 
OtherOther
Lamp Coffee mug 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 19
Distilled/deionized water with a killcoil and some anti-corrosive. If color is what you want, Mayhems makes the best coolant/dyes hands down. If your in the UK, Mayhems Ultra Pure is recommended instead of the UK's poor quality distilled.
post #5 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by McFridgeGuy View Post

Hello all,

It's been a while since I've built a PC, but I'm straying away from Macs. I'm slowly getting the parts for my build, so far it's a Corsair 250D, Asus Impact, Bitspower motherboard waterblock. Planning on getting the Koolance RP 1250. Graphics card, undecided.

My question is what do most manufacturers recommend for a coolant? I'm thinking about using a blend of propylene glycol.

Don't use Propylene Glycol... You really need to have a very good reason to use that over Ethylene Glycol. Before you BLINDLY buy something like a silver kill coil please check out this link which is simply me going to google typing in the word kill coil and clicking on images... https://www.google.com/search?q=kill+coil&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=y5kqU4bfDsSwyQGz3oHoCw&sqi=2&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAw&biw=1829&bih=961

What happens in those images doesn't happen to everyone so there will be lots of lucky people on the forum that say I used a kill coil and never had those issues and no algae...

Thing is I don't use a kill coil (after the havock it wrecked on my system) and I have also NEVER had algae... Some systems I use NO additive and flush every 6 months using distilled water. Some systems that have mixed metals of any kind (which is hard to avoid these days because of all the nickel plating) I will run ethylene glycol but only a tiny tiny amount.

Ethylene Glycol will kill algae, lubricate your pump, and inhibit corrosion. Don't use Propylene Glycol because it is very thick and has poor cooling properties.

Silver kill coil might kill algae (as a lack of algae is not proof that it was the reason algae never showed up) where as Propylene Glycol is proven to kill algae as a side effect of it high toxicity. Silver kill coil also WILL react to the copper and nickel in your loop... in fact I believe it needs to react to be highly effective as if it just stays unchanged I don't think it does much.

One thing you should be aware of. Although Ethylene and Propylene Glycol are supposed to be safe with Acrylic I have seen some minor cosmetic issues with acrylic reservoirs when EG is used in a high concentration for a long period of time. So use very little... or if your not worried about your reservoir looking perfect then who cares... also you have the option of running glass reservoirs like what Aquacomputer sells...

PT Nuke is surely a better option than a silver kill coil. It Copper Sulfate which is perfectly fine to use with copper where as silver can react to copper and nickel.

If you run nickel in your system I don't recommend PTNuke Cu instead I would use PTNuke PHN (clear stuff) or the Ethylene Glycol...

To get Ethylene Glycol you can buy Feser Base which is perfectly clear, Swiftech Hydrx concentrate which only comes in a wretched green and has other non soluble additives (that inhibit corrosion) and react with UV light), or Mayhem's XT-1 Concentrate.

In my opinion EG is the clear winner if you use a glass reservoir or do not care about some cosmetic issues over time with some reservoirs (not all Acrylic reservoirs have this issue).

Second to EG I would say is PHN since it is compatible with EVERYTHING but it doesn't stop corrosion and 3rd would be Copper Sulfate which also does not stop corrosion and might even make corrosion more likely with nickel, aluminum and the TIN in the solder of some radiators.


Also the reason manufacturers use Propylene Glycol over Ethylene Glycol is because it has a very low toxicity and is even a food additive which makes it easy to ship it wherever they want. The reason that often times you won't see Ethylene Glycol in premixes is the same reason... These companies will have major shipping and sales restrictions when you look at a global level. I would not at all doubt if that is why Mayhems went through the trouble of finding a way to make their XT-1 concentrate non toxic even though it uses Ethylene Glycol.

Anyways... Feser Base, Mayhem's XT-1 Concentrate (not pre-mix), and Swiftech Hydrx Concentrate (not pre-mix)
Edited by givmedew - 3/20/14 at 12:52am
Silence
(20 items)
 
Secondary Rig
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel i7-5820k  ASRock x99 extreme 4 AMD R9 290X AMD R9 290X 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
ballistix ddr4 dual channel Samsung 850 EVO 500GB DT 5noz CPU Waterblock XSPC Razor Full Cover GPU Block 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XSPC Razor Full Cover GPU Block 4x120 Black Ice Xtreme GTX480 Swiftech MCP655 Danger Den Monsoon Pump/Reservoir 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair Link Fan Controller Windows 8.1 Nixeus 2560x1440 Logitech G15 
PowerMouseMouse PadAudio
Kingwin PF-850 Ttesports Level10M Razer Vespula Sennheiser HD590 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-2500k gigabyte z68xp-ud4 Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming DDR3 1600 4x2GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Western Digital Velociraptor 300GB w/ Intel RST... Corsair H100 Windows 8.1 1920x1200 HP 
Power
PC P+C 1000w 
  hide details  
Reply
Silence
(20 items)
 
Secondary Rig
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel i7-5820k  ASRock x99 extreme 4 AMD R9 290X AMD R9 290X 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
ballistix ddr4 dual channel Samsung 850 EVO 500GB DT 5noz CPU Waterblock XSPC Razor Full Cover GPU Block 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XSPC Razor Full Cover GPU Block 4x120 Black Ice Xtreme GTX480 Swiftech MCP655 Danger Den Monsoon Pump/Reservoir 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair Link Fan Controller Windows 8.1 Nixeus 2560x1440 Logitech G15 
PowerMouseMouse PadAudio
Kingwin PF-850 Ttesports Level10M Razer Vespula Sennheiser HD590 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-2500k gigabyte z68xp-ud4 Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming DDR3 1600 4x2GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Western Digital Velociraptor 300GB w/ Intel RST... Corsair H100 Windows 8.1 1920x1200 HP 
Power
PC P+C 1000w 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 19
For a first time builder I'd recommend Mayhems X1 concentrates or Mayhems X1 premix depending on your location.

It has all the anti corrosives and anti microbial additives you need to keep your loop clean, is easy to use, not super sensitive to not so exact mix ratios, and performs identically to distilled water.

Don't use a propylene glycol, it's an unnecessary additive and may reduce performance. The only real world uses of propylene glycol is situations where ethylene glycol can't be trusted, such as cooling systems that involve food as ethylene glycol is highly toxic. If you have a brain, which I assume you do, you're not going to be drinking your loops coolant.
The Laboratory
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8350 Vishera 8-Core 4.0GHz Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z Radeon R9 290X Generic 1333MHz R.A.M. 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Wester Digital 5400RPM HP CH20L "The Russian Winter" Windows 8 
KeyboardPowerCase
Steel Series Merc Fatal1ty 1000Watt PSU DIY Rig 
  hide details  
Reply
The Laboratory
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8350 Vishera 8-Core 4.0GHz Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z Radeon R9 290X Generic 1333MHz R.A.M. 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Wester Digital 5400RPM HP CH20L "The Russian Winter" Windows 8 
KeyboardPowerCase
Steel Series Merc Fatal1ty 1000Watt PSU DIY Rig 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by givmedew View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by McFridgeGuy View Post

Hello all,

It's been a while since I've built a PC, but I'm straying away from Macs. I'm slowly getting the parts for my build, so far it's a Corsair 250D, Asus Impact, Bitspower motherboard waterblock. Planning on getting the Koolance RP 1250. Graphics card, undecided.

My question is what do most manufacturers recommend for a coolant? I'm thinking about using a blend of propylene glycol.

Don't use Propylene Glycol... You really need to have a very good reason to use that over Ethylene Glycol. Before you BLINDLY buy something like a silver kill coil please check out this link which is simply me going to google typing in the word kill coil and clicking on images... https://www.google.com/search?q=kill+coil&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=y5kqU4bfDsSwyQGz3oHoCw&sqi=2&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAw&biw=1829&bih=961

What happens in those images doesn't happen to everyone so there will be lots of lucky people on the forum that say I used a kill coil and never had those issues and no algae...

Thing is I don't use a kill coil (after the havock it wrecked on my system) and I have also NEVER had algae... Some systems I use NO additive and flush every 6 months using distilled water. Some systems that have mixed metals of any kind (which is hard to avoid these days because of all the nickel plating) I will run ethylene glycol but only a tiny tiny amount.

Ethylene Glycol will kill algae, lubricate your pump, and inhibit corrosion. Don't use Propylene Glycol because it is very thick and has poor cooling properties.

Silver kill coil might kill algae (as a lack of algae is not proof that it was the reason algae never showed up) where as Propylene Glycol is proven to kill algae as a side effect of it high toxicity. Silver kill coil also WILL react to the copper and nickel in your loop... in fact I believe it needs to react to be highly effective as if it just stays unchanged I don't think it does much.

One thing you should be aware of. Although Ethylene and Propylene Glycol are supposed to be safe with Acrylic I have seen some minor cosmetic issues with acrylic reservoirs when EG is used in a high concentration for a long period of time. So use very little... or if your not worried about your reservoir looking perfect then who cares... also you have the option of running glass reservoirs like what Aquacomputer sells...

PT Nuke is surely a better option than a silver kill coil. It Copper Sulfate which is perfectly fine to use with copper where as silver can react to copper and nickel.

If you run nickel in your system I don't recommend PTNuke Cu instead I would use PTNuke PHN (clear stuff) or the Ethylene Glycol...

To get Ethylene Glycol you can buy Feser Base which is perfectly clear, Swiftech Hydrx concentrate which only comes in a wretched green and has other non soluble additives (that inhibit corrosion) and react with UV light), or Mayhem's XT-1 Concentrate.

In my opinion EG is the clear winner if you use a glass reservoir or do not care about some cosmetic issues over time with some reservoirs (not all Acrylic reservoirs have this issue).

Second to EG I would say is PHN since it is compatible with EVERYTHING but it doesn't stop corrosion and 3rd would be Copper Sulfate which also does not stop corrosion and might even make corrosion more likely with nickel, aluminum and the TIN in the solder of some radiators.


Also the reason manufacturers use Propylene Glycol over Ethylene Glycol is because it has a very low toxicity and is even a food additive which makes it easy to ship it wherever they want. The reason that often times you won't see Ethylene Glycol in premixes is the same reason... These companies will have major shipping and sales restrictions when you look at a global level. I would not at all doubt if that is why Mayhems went through the trouble of finding a way to make their XT-1 concentrate non toxic even though it uses Ethylene Glycol.

Anyways... Feser Base, Mayhem's XT-1 Concentrate (not pre-mix), and Swiftech Hydrx Concentrate (not pre-mix)

We applaud your knowledge on this subject and the way you put you information forward. Well done.
post #8 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by givmedew View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by McFridgeGuy View Post

Hello all,

It's been a while since I've built a PC, but I'm straying away from Macs. I'm slowly getting the parts for my build, so far it's a Corsair 250D, Asus Impact, Bitspower motherboard waterblock. Planning on getting the Koolance RP 1250. Graphics card, undecided.

My question is what do most manufacturers recommend for a coolant? I'm thinking about using a blend of propylene glycol.

Don't use Propylene Glycol... You really need to have a very good reason to use that over Ethylene Glycol. Before you BLINDLY buy something like a silver kill coil please check out this link which is simply me going to google typing in the word kill coil and clicking on images... https://www.google.com/search?q=kill+coil&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=y5kqU4bfDsSwyQGz3oHoCw&sqi=2&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAw&biw=1829&bih=961

What happens in those images doesn't happen to everyone so there will be lots of lucky people on the forum that say I used a kill coil and never had those issues and no algae...

Thing is I don't use a kill coil (after the havock it wrecked on my system) and I have also NEVER had algae... Some systems I use NO additive and flush every 6 months using distilled water. Some systems that have mixed metals of any kind (which is hard to avoid these days because of all the nickel plating) I will run ethylene glycol but only a tiny tiny amount.

Ethylene Glycol will kill algae, lubricate your pump, and inhibit corrosion. Don't use Propylene Glycol because it is very thick and has poor cooling properties.

Silver kill coil might kill algae (as a lack of algae is not proof that it was the reason algae never showed up) where as Propylene Glycol is proven to kill algae as a side effect of it high toxicity. Silver kill coil also WILL react to the copper and nickel in your loop... in fact I believe it needs to react to be highly effective as if it just stays unchanged I don't think it does much.

One thing you should be aware of. Although Ethylene and Propylene Glycol are supposed to be safe with Acrylic I have seen some minor cosmetic issues with acrylic reservoirs when EG is used in a high concentration for a long period of time. So use very little... or if your not worried about your reservoir looking perfect then who cares... also you have the option of running glass reservoirs like what Aquacomputer sells...

PT Nuke is surely a better option than a silver kill coil. It Copper Sulfate which is perfectly fine to use with copper where as silver can react to copper and nickel.

If you run nickel in your system I don't recommend PTNuke Cu instead I would use PTNuke PHN (clear stuff) or the Ethylene Glycol...

To get Ethylene Glycol you can buy Feser Base which is perfectly clear, Swiftech Hydrx concentrate which only comes in a wretched green and has other non soluble additives (that inhibit corrosion) and react with UV light), or Mayhem's XT-1 Concentrate.

In my opinion EG is the clear winner if you use a glass reservoir or do not care about some cosmetic issues over time with some reservoirs (not all Acrylic reservoirs have this issue).

Second to EG I would say is PHN since it is compatible with EVERYTHING but it doesn't stop corrosion and 3rd would be Copper Sulfate which also does not stop corrosion and might even make corrosion more likely with nickel, aluminum and the TIN in the solder of some radiators.


Also the reason manufacturers use Propylene Glycol over Ethylene Glycol is because it has a very low toxicity and is even a food additive which makes it easy to ship it wherever they want. The reason that often times you won't see Ethylene Glycol in premixes is the same reason... These companies will have major shipping and sales restrictions when you look at a global level. I would not at all doubt if that is why Mayhems went through the trouble of finding a way to make their XT-1 concentrate non toxic even though it uses Ethylene Glycol.

Anyways... Feser Base, Mayhem's XT-1 Concentrate (not pre-mix), and Swiftech Hydrx Concentrate (not pre-mix)

We applaud your knowledge on this subject and the way you put you information forward. Well done.

Thanks

AND

I want to make one correction

I did say "where as Propylene Glycol is proven to kill algae "

I meant to say Ethylene Glycol... Propylene Glycol has such a low toxicity that it is used in food additives.

Also as far as the thickness thing...

It should be noted that Propylene Glycol is the primary ingredient in many of the thickest personal lubricants... Yes it is that thick!


ALSO A QUESTIONS TO MAYHEM

Am I correct about my assumptions as to why companies shy away from Ethylene Glycol and why you went through the effort of making Ethylene Glycol non toxic in your XT-1 concentrate? Also not that I really care because I never see algae but do you know if by making the EG non toxic did it also reduce its ability to kill algae? If so did you use other algaecides?

I am just wondering as regardless of those answers I think your XT-1 is second to none if you want color in your water... and tied for first with Feser Base if you don't want color but lest be honest Feser Base isn't a high tech coolant that took any effort it just an easy way to buy a clear additive that contains nothing but water and EG. I would be open minded as to why XT-1 might be better than using pure EG/Water mix with no other additives at all...

Thanks

It is obvious that of all the coolant companies you guys put the most effort in balancing the marketing with the science where as the other companies seem to just go for the marketing... whatever gets them the best sounding label instead of the best performing coolant. Like having the ability to say NON Toxic by using PG instead of EG to me that is a bogus thing to do.
Edited by givmedew - 3/20/14 at 11:12pm
Silence
(20 items)
 
Secondary Rig
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel i7-5820k  ASRock x99 extreme 4 AMD R9 290X AMD R9 290X 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
ballistix ddr4 dual channel Samsung 850 EVO 500GB DT 5noz CPU Waterblock XSPC Razor Full Cover GPU Block 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XSPC Razor Full Cover GPU Block 4x120 Black Ice Xtreme GTX480 Swiftech MCP655 Danger Den Monsoon Pump/Reservoir 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair Link Fan Controller Windows 8.1 Nixeus 2560x1440 Logitech G15 
PowerMouseMouse PadAudio
Kingwin PF-850 Ttesports Level10M Razer Vespula Sennheiser HD590 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-2500k gigabyte z68xp-ud4 Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming DDR3 1600 4x2GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Western Digital Velociraptor 300GB w/ Intel RST... Corsair H100 Windows 8.1 1920x1200 HP 
Power
PC P+C 1000w 
  hide details  
Reply
Silence
(20 items)
 
Secondary Rig
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel i7-5820k  ASRock x99 extreme 4 AMD R9 290X AMD R9 290X 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
ballistix ddr4 dual channel Samsung 850 EVO 500GB DT 5noz CPU Waterblock XSPC Razor Full Cover GPU Block 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XSPC Razor Full Cover GPU Block 4x120 Black Ice Xtreme GTX480 Swiftech MCP655 Danger Den Monsoon Pump/Reservoir 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair Link Fan Controller Windows 8.1 Nixeus 2560x1440 Logitech G15 
PowerMouseMouse PadAudio
Kingwin PF-850 Ttesports Level10M Razer Vespula Sennheiser HD590 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-2500k gigabyte z68xp-ud4 Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming DDR3 1600 4x2GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Western Digital Velociraptor 300GB w/ Intel RST... Corsair H100 Windows 8.1 1920x1200 HP 
Power
PC P+C 1000w 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 19
Quote:
Originally Posted by givmedew View Post

Thanks

AND

I want to make one correction

I did say "where as Propylene Glycol is proven to kill algae "

I meant to say Ethylene Glycol... Propylene Glycol has such a low toxicity that it is used in food additives.

Also as far as the thickness thing...

It should be noted that Propylene Glycol is the primary ingredient in many of the thickest personal lubricants... Yes it is that thick!


ALSO A QUESTIONS TO MAYHEM

Am I correct about my assumptions as to why companies shy away from Ethylene Glycol and why you went through the effort of making Ethylene Glycol non toxic in your XT-1 concentrate? Also not that I really care because I never see algae but do you know if by making the EG non toxic did it also reduce its ability to kill algae? If so did you use other algaecides?

I am just wondering as regardless of those answers I think your XT-1 is second to none if you want color in your water... and tied for first with Feser Base if you don't want color but lest be honest Feser Base isn't a high tech coolant that took any effort it just an easy way to buy a clear additive that contains nothing but water and EG. I would be open minded as to why XT-1 might be better than using pure EG/Water mix with no other additives at all...

Thanks

It is obvious that of all the coolant companies you guys put the most effort in balancing the marketing with the science where as the other companies seem to just go for the marketing... whatever gets them the best sounding label instead of the best performing coolant. Like having the ability to say NON Toxic by using PG instead of EG to me that is a bogus thing to do.

While I can't speak for mayhems I did a bit of research as to E.G.'s toxicity and EG is not inherently toxic to humans, but it's metabolites are. The ingredient I assume is used in XT-1 to inhibit the enzymes from breaking down E.G. was used as an antiseptic for centuries so if anything it increases it's anti microbial properties. Again, just speculation based on personal research.
The Laboratory
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8350 Vishera 8-Core 4.0GHz Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z Radeon R9 290X Generic 1333MHz R.A.M. 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Wester Digital 5400RPM HP CH20L "The Russian Winter" Windows 8 
KeyboardPowerCase
Steel Series Merc Fatal1ty 1000Watt PSU DIY Rig 
  hide details  
Reply
The Laboratory
(11 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX-8350 Vishera 8-Core 4.0GHz Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z Radeon R9 290X Generic 1333MHz R.A.M. 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Wester Digital 5400RPM HP CH20L "The Russian Winter" Windows 8 
KeyboardPowerCase
Steel Series Merc Fatal1ty 1000Watt PSU DIY Rig 
  hide details  
Reply
post #10 of 19
I do understand the mistake in the liver that causes humans to die from EG but it is toxic to non mammals including fish and I believe algae. I do know that it is not the most effective at killing algae but unfortunately many of the "effective things" have other issues which is why I mentioned the use of PHN.

Thanks for that info... I am guessing you are correct about the inhibiting of the enzymes from being broken down. As long as you can stop the liver from doing what it does then I suppose it wouldn't kill a human unless it was in a very high dose...

As I mentioned also though... I have NEVER EVER seen algae in any of my loops including those with NO additives... I have stopped using Copper Sulfate because I use mostly HWLabs radiators and I believe they have TIN from the welds exposed to the water. I also use a Koolance GPU block and it unfortunately only comes in nickel frown.gif
Silence
(20 items)
 
Secondary Rig
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel i7-5820k  ASRock x99 extreme 4 AMD R9 290X AMD R9 290X 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
ballistix ddr4 dual channel Samsung 850 EVO 500GB DT 5noz CPU Waterblock XSPC Razor Full Cover GPU Block 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XSPC Razor Full Cover GPU Block 4x120 Black Ice Xtreme GTX480 Swiftech MCP655 Danger Den Monsoon Pump/Reservoir 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair Link Fan Controller Windows 8.1 Nixeus 2560x1440 Logitech G15 
PowerMouseMouse PadAudio
Kingwin PF-850 Ttesports Level10M Razer Vespula Sennheiser HD590 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-2500k gigabyte z68xp-ud4 Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming DDR3 1600 4x2GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Western Digital Velociraptor 300GB w/ Intel RST... Corsair H100 Windows 8.1 1920x1200 HP 
Power
PC P+C 1000w 
  hide details  
Reply
Silence
(20 items)
 
Secondary Rig
(9 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel i7-5820k  ASRock x99 extreme 4 AMD R9 290X AMD R9 290X 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
ballistix ddr4 dual channel Samsung 850 EVO 500GB DT 5noz CPU Waterblock XSPC Razor Full Cover GPU Block 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XSPC Razor Full Cover GPU Block 4x120 Black Ice Xtreme GTX480 Swiftech MCP655 Danger Den Monsoon Pump/Reservoir 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Corsair Link Fan Controller Windows 8.1 Nixeus 2560x1440 Logitech G15 
PowerMouseMouse PadAudio
Kingwin PF-850 Ttesports Level10M Razer Vespula Sennheiser HD590 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-2500k gigabyte z68xp-ud4 Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming DDR3 1600 4x2GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Western Digital Velociraptor 300GB w/ Intel RST... Corsair H100 Windows 8.1 1920x1200 HP 
Power
PC P+C 1000w 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Water Cooling
Overclock.net › Forums › Cooling › Water Cooling › Coolant Medium