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so why release this if Broadwell is coming soon?
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post #102 of 125
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Originally Posted by Yvese View Post

Wait so can this work with z87 motherboards? If all I need is a bios update I'll be all over this assuming there's an actual improvement in temps.

I would assume so, yes; not to mention refined process, higher stepping across all Haswell and possibly better OC'ing.
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post #103 of 125
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Originally Posted by Z Overlord View Post

so why release this if Broadwell is coming soon?

This comes mid-2014. Broadwell for desktop is probably 1.5 year after Haswell launch
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post #104 of 125
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Originally Posted by Z Overlord View Post

so why release this if Broadwell is coming soon?


Because they know people who bought haswell will buy haswell refresh, and they know who bought haswell refresh will buy broadwell.


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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post #105 of 125
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Originally Posted by Cyro999 View Post

This comes mid-2014. Broadwell for desktop is probably 1.5 year after Haswell launch

damn so like early 2015 pretty much? Jeez
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post #106 of 125
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Well to be fair I also count myself among the "younger guys". The first rig I actually built from scratch was based on an i7 860.

The first one I upgraded myself was athlon 64 3400+ based. And when I was a little kid I had a beastly pentium III setup.

The first one I messed around on was an 1.2Ghz Athlon Thunderbird on Socket A. rolleyes.gif

I remember being surprised at seeing such large IHS on intel chips thinking that those were the dies as the T-Birds were completely exposed.

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post #107 of 125
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Originally Posted by fleetfeather View Post

more expensive than dealing with the RMA's coming in from kids with "faulty cpu's that get too hot", or the loss of sales because other kids don't want to deal with the heat in the first place? (popular reasons why people don't upgrade to haswell: #1 not worth it. #2 runs too hot)

The people who know or care about the difference are a tiny, tiny, fraction of consumers. So are fraudulent RMAs.
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You seriously don't think Intel couldn't absorb the extra cost?

They can easily absorb the cost, but is it profitable to?

Intel will do whatever is going to make them the most money in the long run.
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Originally Posted by Stay Puft View Post

What other TIM is there? You think Intel is going to put MX4 on it? lachen.gif

There are countless options, and raw performance/thermal resistance of the TIM itself is far from the biggest factor to consider.
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Does 9-series compatible mean that I can use DDR4 with it?

No. Chipset has nothing to do with memory support.
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surprised but then again we all saw this coming
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Finally the excuse I was looking for to go 1150!!! I feel that if I go haswell I need to delid, if they remove the need for it, im all in. Who was I kidding, I just needed some sort of excuse to play with a new cpu, been since ivy launch since I have had a new cpu to play with and Im going crazy lol

Need is subjective, I know, but we are on OCN after all right? biggrin.gif

Same here smile.gif I sure hope these chips overclock better as well with improved thermal paste and/or solder. Will upgrade to Haswell refresh soon. thumb.gif
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The first one I messed around on was an 1.2Ghz Athlon Thunderbird on Socket A. rolleyes.gif

I remember being surprised at seeing such large IHS on intel chips thinking that those were the dies as the T-Birds were completely exposed.


Such a great proc. I still have one sitting in my 'surplus parts' cabinet!
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