Originally Posted by Alatar
How "durable" a CPU is has very little to do with the company making it...
Obviously there's no bottleneck with mining as mining doesn't need any more CPU power than running an OS needs.
Not really, at stock maybe but only because the 920 was clocked so low out of the box. And even then as a claim it's really questionable.
average fps probably yes. Also depends on the resolution.
They do not want to kill AMD, nor have they even remotely tried to be tough on AMD in recent years.
E8400 was never high end
And it definitely wasn't high end in 2009 with first gen i7s already out and hexa core i7s coming in 2010.
I have two i7 860s that I bought back in 2009. They're 5 years old now. MSRP back in those days was $294.
Take your BF3/BF4 example:
in BF4 to this day those 5 year old i7s at stock perform on par with the 2500K, or in some cases a bit better.
(i7 930 = i7 860 performance wise)
To this day that i7 is only trailing a 8350 in avg frames by 1% and in minimum frames by 12%. And you know what the greatest thing about those numbers is? That 5 year old i7 has around 45% overclocking headroom while the 8350 has 20-25%...
If that's not great value I do not know what is.
Yes but this is an example of what I was talking about earlier (not saying you need to listen to me or anything). If we get down to very specific numbers, statistics, overclocking capacity, age of hardware, ect. then I think we lose sight of the big picture. AMD is here to stay for a long while. It will be around for at least the next 10 years if Intel doesn't buy it out. But U.S. Federal anti-trust laws would probably prevent that from happening anyways. That is the only way AMD would go down. AMD makes affordable products and the vast majority of people who view their computer as high end would have no problem using an FX 8350. The majority of people who view their computer as high end are not going to just buy the best of the best. They have budgets to follow as well.
I think the better way to look at this is to see that Intel makes the best of the best. That is obvious. The CPUs that hospitals use in their MRI, radiation, x-ray, and CAT scan computers, along with other computers, are going to be Intel. Pixar and Dreamworks use Intel CPUs in their animation workstations. But if you look at computers on a spectrum, from the lowest being like my dad's old Inspiron 15, and the highest being a workstation like the ones they would use at Dreamworks or Pixar, then a computer with an FX 8350 and a Radeon video card like the one I have (7870) is much closer to the quality of that workstation. This means that AMD is clearly competitive in mid-high end computing and gaming.