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THANK YOU!!!

99 times out of 100 your game can't run because your GPU isn't powerful enough, not because your CPU is crap. And since consoles are using AMD parts, AMD looks like a good investment now if I owned a mutual fund.

Maybe I should have started with that instead of getting too bogged down in the cores and how the developers will use them. AMD's stocks have taken a hit over the last 2 years however. From $8 to $4. Ouch. So maybe not...
HSA has a lot of real potential, enough so AMD is gonna look like a champ. But on the whole your debate is correct that AMD is indeed viable and more than some posters want to admit. Is it the best, well no but that doesn't mean it isn't viable and competitive.
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I gotta side with the people saying an Athlon is bad for gaming. It's not even benchmarked on sites that bench CPUs for gaming performance, like in that Thief link. It has no L3 cache. I honestly wouldn't recommend one of those to anyone, you'd be far better off with even a used Phenom II and cheap motherboard. It doesn't matter how much you overclock it if it has no L3 cache, slow cache and low IPC.

As far as FX vs Intel goes, as much as I love my FX and think it has good performance, if you are into serious benching it's pretty much garbage. Those Thief FPS numbers also mean that on a serious setup, it's not as good for gaming on next gen titles either. I just jumped ship and bought a 4770k and Maximus VI Hero because people are getting 30 more fps than me with Crossfire 290s in Valley. Of course, the gaming performance is low too (but not bad, and totally acceptable if you only game at 1080p or probably even 1440p). My Eyefinity setup with one 290 and an overclocked FX-8350 was acceptable in 90% of the games I play- Just Cause 2, Torchlight 2, Sleeping Dogs, Shadowrun Returns, XCOM Enemy Unknown, Skyrim w/ mods were all at acceptable frame rates with Ultra settings and some MSAA or FXAA. Usually way over 60 fps, sometimes as low as 40 but usually 60.

However, there's still that small section of games where 1 290 and my FX-8350 struggled to maintain more than 30 fps in Eyefinity with all the settings maxed out: Far Cry 3, Crysis 3, Battlefield 4, and new games like Thief. This is what sets the serious enthusiast and bencher apart from the scrubs: I'm willing to make sacrifices and I want the best, so I'm throwing another R9 290 and i7 4770k at the problem. I'm hoping it will be enough that I won't have to upgrade my system again for 3 years or more.

Long story short: if you want the absolute best performance, you have to go Intel. However, a system with one monitor can do great with a FX-6300 and a R9 270X or something similar. No reason you need anything more powerful for 1080p. That doesn't mean it can work for serious enthusiast systems at much higher resolutions, though.
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Neurotix,

For all intents and purposes in desktop application and gaming workloads, the FX chips don't have L3 cache either; instead, they have a huge high latency L2 cache. The L3 cache doesn't generate any meaningful performance improvements on single user systems. The "user-space-available" bandwidth of L3 cache, is no better than system memory on this platform. AMD ran a bunch of simulations and came up with this design for their cache configuration. Unfortunately, it would seem that their simulations were based on server load scenarios with conditions that never happen on a desktop single-user system. The L3 cache is effectively meaningless on FX chips. When the same silicon is placed in the G34 socket, the way this L3 cache is utilized may make more sense, perhaps on multi-socket systems.

There are lots of CPU benchmarks out there to prove this point. The FX-4300 and 760K perform within a few percent of each-other in all mainstream desktop workloads.
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Well, I was going based off what I knew of older Athlon IIs as compared to Phenom IIs. I won't claim to know specifics of Piledriver cache architecture, and I'm no computer engineer, so if what you say is true I'll stand corrected.

I still wouldn't recommend an Athlon II to anyone interested in serious gaming, and especially serious benchmarking. I think there's a good reason review sites don't even bother testing these chips in gaming performance. Besides the L3 cache, there are many other reasons why they're crap chips.

Also, that still doesn't invalidate the other points I've made about serious benchmarking and high end enthusiast gaming, and why Intel is preferable under these circumstances.
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neurotix,

I used to be on an Athlon II propus X4. At the time I bought it (almost 4 years ago), I was convinced that the quad core nature of it would be more useful to me than having good per-core performance. In reality, had I bought a Phenom II X2 at that time, (would have been about the same price), chances are I would still be using that same hardware today. On that platform, L3 made a difference. Now I'm pretty happy with an FX chip, but only when it is overclocked to 5ghz.
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There are PLENTY of games where the 8350 performs better than an i5.

Proof please
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Well, I was going based off what I knew of older Athlon IIs as compared to Phenom IIs. I won't claim to know specifics of Piledriver cache architecture, and I'm no computer engineer, so if what you say is true I'll stand corrected.

I still wouldn't recommend an Athlon II to anyone interested in serious gaming, and especially serious benchmarking. I think there's a good reason review sites don't even bother testing these chips in gaming performance. Besides the L3 cache, there are many other reasons why they're crap chips.

Also, that still doesn't invalidate the other points I've made about serious benchmarking and high end enthusiast gaming, and why Intel is preferable under these circumstances.

The reason is not because those Athlons are crappy CPUs. The primary reason is because the 750K and 760K are basically 5800K and 6800K APUs without the onbpard graphics processors. You can find reviews of 5800K and 6800K a plenty.

You won't find many, if any i7 4770S reviews, does it mean that's a crappy CPU too? No, it will perform the same as i7 4770K.
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The reason is not because those Athlons are crappy CPUs. The primary reason is because the 750K and 760K are basically 5800K and 6800K APUs without the onbpard graphics processors. You can find reviews of 5800K and 6800K a plenty.

You won't find many, if any i7 4770S reviews, does it mean that's a crappy CPU too? No, it will perform the same as i7 4770K.

Umm no? The 4770s is a locked chip... An OCed 4770k (like you would find in every single benchmark done in reviews) would blow it away.
 
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Umm no? The 4770s is a locked chip... An OCed 4770k (like you would find in every single benchmark done in reviews) would blow it away.

What about the benchmarks that show the 4770k at stock? I'm pretty sure that's what He meant.
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What about the benchmarks that show the 4770k at stock? I'm pretty sure that's what He meant.

Who benchmarks with a stock 4770k? The only time I have ever even seen that is when a site it testing a low end card like a 260.
 
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