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post #21 of 98
I think I'm gunna hold off building another rig until the 8 core are no longer "extreme" series so the price can drop a little.
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While the unlocked Pentium is great news, I just wish Intel would just unlock all of their CPUs.
It's like they're selling what was available years ago, as something new later this year.

I don't think there is any real technical reason not to allow it on all of their CPUs. It seems to me like they're just forcing anyone looking to overclock into purchasing a quad-core ever since Sandy Bridge which is incredibly dumb IMO.
I'm pretty sure AMD doesn't have their own "K" series and instead just lets them all be overclocked.
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Cool. Can't wait for the mobile division news tho smile.gif
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post #24 of 98
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While the unlocked Pentium is great news, I just wish Intel would just unlock all of their CPUs.
It's like they're selling what was available years ago, as something new later this year.

I don't think there is any real technical reason not to allow it on all of their CPUs. It seems to me like they're just forcing anyone looking to overclock into purchasing a quad-core ever since Sandy Bridge which is incredibly dumb IMO.
I'm pretty sure AMD doesn't have their own "K" series and instead just lets them all be overclocked.

Well AMD does have locked CPUs but you can still OC them... thing is with Intel you can't really do that on anything except the X series boards.
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post #25 of 98
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C'mon Intel.. get those unlocked i3's and Xeons back...
I agree!

I hate what overclocking has become. It used to be "overclock to get more performance for your money!" now it's "pay more for our special extreme and/or unlocked chip that is barely better than the locked chips, but we'll let you overclock them!". I plan to stick with this Xeon X3440 as long as I possibly can, I'd say at least until DDR4 becomes standard and affordable. Lynnfield is still performing beautifully for me.
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post #26 of 98
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Well AMD does have locked CPUs but you can still OC them... thing is with Intel you can't really do that on anything except the X series boards.

Oh, that sucks.
Is the overclocking capability crippled like Intel's, with the multiplier locked?
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post #27 of 98
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Well AMD does have locked CPUs but you can still OC them... thing is with Intel you can't really do that on anything except the X series boards.

Oh, that sucks.
Is the overclocking capability crippled like Intel's, with the multiplier locked?

What do you mean?

With AMD? As to AMD if the multiplier is locked then it is the same thing as overlocking an i7-920 (which was locked). You overclock the bclock... unfortunately with 2nd, 3rd, 4th gen intel except the 2011 socket ones you can't really OC the bclock very far... I think with the certain 3rd gen Intels you could OC locked CPUs a few multiplier with Z boards and that maybe even with Haswell certain Z boards can run all the cores at the turbo speed (you would have to check).

But as for overclocking the heck out of an i3 (which has no turbo)... you just can't really do it. Which sucks because for gaming only you usually just don't need more than 2 cores and the Hyper-Threading makes up for some of the lack of cores anyways. A lot of people could build some very inexpensive Intel builds and have a heck of a budget system...

Intel is probably used to be afraid that doing that would cut into i5/i7 sales... It would a bit but it would also cut into AMD sales... and it might be a wash... Besides they could charge an extra $30 or so for the K version and I'm sure people would be happy.

The Pentium I am guessing will not have HT...

I wish they would make a 2 core w/HT i5 that was unlocked... that would be a nice CPU to make a HTPC with.


I mean I know everyone thinks that you need 4 or more cores but if you look up Linus Tech Tips how many cores do you need for gaming they show that 1 core with HT is only marginally slower than 6 cores with HT and that 2 cores without HT is the same exact speed as 6 cores with HT...

I know that everyone wants to think that new games will change that... but most games won't and if a game comes out that can they will be few and far between... So I welcome a budget overclocking CPU... its just to bad it will not have HT...

If it has all the benefits from new architecture that Intel already shows over AMD then it will be a great little chip.
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post #28 of 98
smart of intel to offer unlocked pentiums first, then they can double dip by offering unlocked i3 in January of 2015 for the 5 year anniversary of i3 tongue.gif
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post #29 of 98
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smart of intel to offer unlocked pentiums first, then they can double dip by offering unlocked i3 in January of 2015 for the 5 year anniversary of i3 tongue.gif

They dont even have to offer an unlocked I3. Simply clock the Broadwell I3's at 4Ghz base with a 4.4Ghz turbo
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post #30 of 98
That is definately interesting. Unlocked Pentium ... mmm. Wonder at what price smile.gif If it's 100$ ballpark I do not see much point, if it's ~50$ ballpark it would be awesome.
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