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That is definately interesting. Unlocked Pentium ... mmm. Wonder at what price smile.gif If it's 100$ ballpark I do not see much point, if it's ~50$ ballpark it would be awesome.

An unlocked pentium for 50 dollars? Never going to happen. Thinking 109-119
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I don't think the pentium will be over $100. I'd guess $80 or $90.
 
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post #33 of 98
My only wish is that the Unlocked Pentium would be like 100-130$'ish top. I would be more likely to upgrade if one would be available at that price.
All in all, everything sounds great...now it's the old waiting game.
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post #34 of 98
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I don't think the pentium will be over $100. I'd guess $80 or $90.

That sounds realistic, however, in my opinion it might be hard sell at that price-point against APU's, considering it's only a dual-core without hyper-threading. You can already get decent enough APU at ~65$ (A6) which is also in essence "unlocked" and also dual core.

Perhaps I am dreaming in here but I was hoping something like Sempron series from Intel. These were damn fine bang-for-buck. Unlocked pretty reliably to dual core and went for me to ~3.5 GHz without blinking twice even on bottom of the barrel cheap mobos. They were around 25 to 30 EUR around here. A ~50$ Pentium which is unlocked would surely give AMD offerings to think about.
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Hopefully we see how "improved" the TIM will be.
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I don't think the pentium will be over $100. I'd guess $80 or $90.

$99 Haswell Pentium G3430 @ Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116948
$40 Haswell Celeron G1820 @ Microcenter: http://www.microcenter.com/product/428533/Celeron_G1820_27GHz_LGA_1150_Boxed_processor
$60 Haswell Celeron G1830 @ Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116973


The unlocked Pentium might actually be going for over $100 when it comes out. For about $80, I'd expect to see an unlocked Celeron maybe.
Right now, the two Celerons out aren't the top end. A G1840 and G1850 are scheduled to be released this year, and I bet we'll probably see them for an added $10 each release.
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I agree!

I hate what overclocking has become. It used to be "overclock to get more performance for your money!" now it's "pay more for our special extreme and/or unlocked chip that is barely better than the locked chips, but we'll let you overclock them!". I plan to stick with this Xeon X3440 as long as I possibly can, I'd say at least until DDR4 becomes standard and affordable. Lynnfield is still performing beautifully for me.
Both statements are still true I don't see what the problem is.
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I wish they would make a 2 core w/HT i5 that was unlocked... that would be a nice CPU to make a HTPC with.
You would trade 2 real cores with virtual ones? Why?
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I mean I know everyone thinks that you need 4 or more cores but if you look up Linus Tech Tips how many cores do you need for gaming they show that 1 core with HT is only marginally slower than 6 cores with HT and that 2 cores without HT is the same exact speed as 6 cores with HT...

I know that everyone wants to think that new games will change that... but most games won't and if a game comes out that can they will be few and far between... So I welcome a budget overclocking CPU... its just to bad it will not have HT...

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/28256-how-many-cores-of-cpu-do-you-really-need/
I looked it up on Linus Tech Tips but they say you need 4 or 8 cores. So I don't know where you get the idea that we only need 1 or 2 cores. And you never specified whether you're talking about games like Battlefield 4 or 2D Indie Games.
And what makes you so sure "most" games only need 1 or 2 cores?
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They dont even have to offer an unlocked I3. Simply clock the Broadwell I3's at 4Ghz base with a 4.4Ghz turbo
And make it faster than stock Core i5's and i7's?
Edited by Bitech - 3/20/14 at 5:05pm
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And make it faster than stock Core i5's and i7's?

Well the 1st gen i3s were clocked faster than the i7s.
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I can imagine the 8 core being very expensive no matter how many times I try lie to myself! biggrin.gif
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I agree!

I hate what overclocking has become. It used to be "overclock to get more performance for your money!" now it's "pay more for our special extreme and/or unlocked chip that is barely better than the locked chips, but we'll let you overclock them!". I plan to stick with this Xeon X3440 as long as I possibly can, I'd say at least until DDR4 becomes standard and affordable. Lynnfield is still performing beautifully for me.

They're arguably worse, honestly...Lack of certain extensions from k edition chips like IOMMU. It's not anything the typical enthusiast would miss but among other things it allows GPU acceleration in games, meaning you could use a Windows VM to play any game you want in Linux.
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I mean I know everyone thinks that you need 4 or more cores but if you look up Linus Tech Tips how many cores do you need for gaming they show that 1 core with HT is only marginally slower than 6 cores with HT and that 2 cores without HT is the same exact speed as 6 cores with HT...

...Are you sure? Gaming on a Core 2 Duo E6700 @ Stock vs a Phenom II x3 at the same clocks (Very similar in IPC and per core performance, honestly) is much quicker on the Phenom II in general simply because of its 3rd core. Even games like Starcraft 2 (Only dual threaded) are faster with 3 cores because it allows it to offload system related functions (ie. Windows eating up clock cycles) to the third core...It surely depends on the games you test because I know BF3, BF4, Crysis 3, Civ V among others benefit from having 4 cores for sure, and if you want your rig to be any sort of future proof you'd want more than an overclocked dual core in 2014.
    
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