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They are right PC market is getting stronger but they think of it for the wrong reason. It's not that their own isolated share is bigger now that AMD fails. It's common sense that would happen.

It's getting bigger because people gradually are getting enough from their mobile phones. Performance computing needs upgrades. But those phones can do their job for years now..

It was a time we got an Android and thought "wow". Now most of us are like ok it does what I what, leave the damn thing on the side unless it stops playing youtube videos anymore.
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Originally Posted by givmedew View Post

There would be no major difference to renaming Core i3 to Core i5 besides that it would come stock with Turbo which for some people is a major difference for overclocking no difference. I am just saying that as in if that is what Intel would have to do be able to sell it like that. I don't care what they are labled... if it was a Pentium with HT that would be fine... I didn't think people would have a hard time with that comment... It doesn't look like Intel is going to unlock i3... so it would be nice if instead they offered a premium version of the i3 and added turbo and unlocked. Aside from the unlocking they already do this with the laptop CPUs... The difference between an i3 and i5 dual-core is that the i5 has Turbo.

To the comment about AMD

There is no argument to the fact that CLOCK for CLOCK haswell has anything AMD has beat. Meaning that a 4GHz 4670K would annihilate a 8350 at 4GHz if it only had 4 cores. That is for everything and since games don't even make use of 4 cores it holds true even if all 8 cores are enabled on the 8350.

If that clock for clock lead holds up for the Pentium then a nice OC'd Pentium would be a good bargin chip against what AMD offers if it was capable of over 4GHz and I don't see why it wouldn't be.

I've had my AMD chips... and when AMD starts making something that can compete with Intel on the top speed and value level in markets with Micro Centers then I will go back to AMD...

At the moment I could take my 5GHz 4670K slap it into the absolute cheapest Z87 board and still hit 5GHz and run it everyday for many years and never have a single problem. The 4670K is the same price as a 8350 but I don't think it is as easy to OC a 8350 on a cheap motherboard. Also you have to have a better cooling system and you have to worry about keeping the temps in a safe zone. There is NO worrying with Haswell... if it hits 105C it will not go bad and the computer won't even reboot. It will just start to throttle the CPU...

If you could hit 5GHz on a $100 board and the chip was only $100 and I was on a budget where $80 would be a big enough deal to sacrifice a little speed then I would be running it instead of Intel...

Right now I can walk into the store and buy a 4670K and a Z87 motherboard for $232... Or I could pay more get a 8350, need a better cooler, better PSU, and have less performance.

If they can knock another $60 off that $232 tag then that would be even closer to being so cheap you'd be brain dead to choose AMD for gaming as long as you want to use a dedicated graphics card.

That's just my preference as of right now... I used to be a huge AMD fanboy and gave them the benefit of the doubt even when they didn't deserve it. I don't do that anymore... I go with whatever the better value is.

Since I don't encode video with this machine and I use higher end video cards... the 4670K is the best value for me. That's why I don't buy a bunch of random AMD CPUs... I sold my Sabertooth 990FX and 4GHz x6 CPU and never turned back.
If you want an unlocked Intel processor then get the Core i5-4670K.
Edited by Bitech - 3/23/14 at 7:53pm
post #63 of 98
man i ahte news like this make me think my 4670k is getting old jk but i will skip and get 6th gen to upgrade come on amd we need a new extreme cpu
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man i ahte news like this make me think my 4670k is getting old jk but i will skip and get 6th gen to upgrade come on amd we need a new extreme cpu

AMD "extreme" series is strictly for servers unfortunately. I would love them to release their G34 socket stuff for consumers, hell I could live with them just releasing only the chip-set for G34 that can overlock. G34 is LGA 1944 which is AMD equivalent to Intel's LGA 2011 - also quad channel RAM n stuff. Intel has just released their s as "extreme" edition consumer lineup while AMD has opted not to do that.
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man i ahte news like this make me think my 4670k is getting old jk but i will skip and get 6th gen to upgrade come on amd we need a new extreme cpu

Intel's 8 core CPU isn't going to be that good. Raw speed (Single-thread) likely won't improve by much, it's mostly just extra cores.
The price of the 8 Core is probably also going to be more than buying four or five i5s anyway, so for the range your 4670K is in it won't lose value fast at all.

By the logic assuming this release somehow makes your 4670K obsolete.. then you already made the mistake by purchasing it obsolete by not going with a 4960X.
A new Ferrari being released doesn't make a Toyota any older, lol.
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I don't understand why they even bother to "codename" these chips. As an easier way to talk about, sure, but is it really a codename if everyone knows it?
    
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I don't see it as a code name more of a name for the model it is. A bit like how people name their cars?
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My point being is that the definition of code name taken from Merriam-Webster is "a name that is used to keep someone's or something's real name a secret". How can you display a slide that clearly states the code name to hundreds of people and allow it to be posted online for the masses and still call it a code name?

I'm just being overly picky this morning.
    
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So what we should be asking Intel is, what is the CPU's real name? If the codename is hiding its real identity.

Not sure I need to spend £1000 on a CPU right now, as I'm just a gamer really.
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Extreme editions to me are not so much a matter of price but more about size of the whole machine budget.

You need 3 gpus and 4 memory modules, and possibly a game that is heavily threaded but also CPU depended highly to utilize it properly .

Or with just money to spend.

But if you are the one but good gpu card type or generelly are the minimalist but optimal type then it's a silly solution.
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