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The unit I'm buying gives me the choice of USB 3.0 and eSATA. I own neither cord type and I don't think the cords that come with it are long enough.... I think. I'm not entirely sure, I can't find any measurements for the cords it comes with. I've never once gotten a long enough cord for any external computer device I've ever bought. (scanners, printers, card readers, etc) So I thought this time I should think ahead and get a longer cord. smile.gif

If anyone knows for certain how long the cords are that come with it are, that would help a bunch!

In the mean time, since I'm being given the choice, I thought I'd ask you guys which connection is the most trouble free? I've heard of weird quirks or connection procedures with eSATA (that I can't remember at the moment), and I've also heard of driver issues, strange compatibility issues, and other foul ups with USB 3.0 where it refuses to run at 3.0 speeds. So which one should I go with?

This is the device I'll be using. Nifty gadget, can't wait to try it. smile.gif
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0064I1NRG/
Edited by Drahadis - 3/19/14 at 5:48pm
post #2 of 25
do u want the most speed, or the most re assurance that you will be able to use the drive wherever u go with it??

usb ports are on every system.

esata is getting there, but older stuff not so much.

id go with esata simply because for me I move very large files on the reg.


wait... it says it supports both?? if the problem is just then cable then just buy a esata cable, says it comes with the 3.0 cable..
Edited by GregoryD - 3/19/14 at 4:41pm
post #3 of 25
The Amazon Q&A states that it comes with usb3 and eSata cables.
post #4 of 25
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I just read a customer complaining that the Vantec NexStar3 doesn't run at USB 3.0 speeds, even though it offers it on the back connection and says it on the box and the site. This is exactly what I was talking about. How often does this happen? Is it easy to solve and the customers complaining don't know what they're doing?
Edited by Drahadis - 3/19/14 at 5:50pm
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HAHAHA...
post #6 of 25
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This is really confusing. I'm seeing a pattern of customers complaining it only works at 2.0 speeds... but then I see some customers saying its working at 3.0 speeds with their computers. Is this just a pattern of stupid people... or driver issues... or maybe a bad batch?

You know what, I know what happend
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Originally Posted by Laylow View Post

The Amazon Q&A states that it comes with usb3 and eSata cables.

I know they come with cords. I saw them in another picture. It comes with a grey eSATA and a black USB 3.0, but they didn't look long enough. It needs to reach behind up and over to a glass shelf. I was thinking I'll probably try those cords, but was trying to think ahead and get a cord early on. Maybe it'll be a better idea to play around with the different connections and see which ones I like. I'm just worried I'm going to knock it it over or something, that's all. But now I'm more worried about the USB 2.0 speeds that I'm seeing a pattern of people complaining about.
Edited by Drahadis - 3/19/14 at 5:40pm
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This one is similar to one liked above but will spin down when not in use. The one linked above will spin down when not in use only when connected via e-SATA.
     
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This one is similar to one liked above but will spin down when not in use. The one linked above will spin down when not in use only when connected via e-SATA.

I was looking at that one actually, but I thought it was basically the same thing with a fan as the only real difference. Then I read a few customers saying the air flow design doesn't work and the eSATA port is missing, so it sounded like a gimmick and a rip off at the expense of taking up more space (width of the unit). I think I remember one of the units I was looking at didn't spin down... I don't remember if I knew it was this one or another unit, it was a while back. I either thought it was a different unit or completely forgot. Thanks for catching that. smile.gif

Is there an easy way to fix the air flow problem? Maybe changing the stock fan out for a slimmer fan or something? What exactly is causing the air not to flow through and exhaust out of the unit?

Has the missing eSATA port problem been solved? End of last year and beginning of this year people were getting units with no eSATA port. It turned out to be a problem with the factory making them in China. They were leaving out the port on the unit, but showing it in all the shopping website pictures, on the box, and on the Vantec site. I haven't seen anything about the problem being fixed yet though.
Edited by Drahadis - 3/19/14 at 6:09pm
post #9 of 25
USB 3.0 because it is self powered (I assume your eSATA is not powered on the drive OR the computer). Powered ESATA is hard to come by on both puter and drive. Most USB 3.0 ports can power a drive,
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USB 3.0 because it is self powered (I assume your eSATA is not powered on the drive OR the computer). Powered ESATA is hard to come by on both puter and drive. Most USB 3.0 ports can power a drive,

What are the best USB 3.0 External 3.5 Drive Enclosures with good cooling solutions you guys know of that do not need their own power source? All the nice ones I've seen need a separate adapter.
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