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post #11 of 38
This is where the Arch forums have tried, and mostly failed. People don't ever read these threads, stickied or not ( not to mention Huddler doesn't really have "stickied" threads, in the common sense, because you know... reinvent the wheel and all ).

README: Forum Rules : https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=130309

  1. Please mark solved threads as [SOLVED]
    Marking threads as [SOLVED], after a solution has been found will help others to find an expedient solution for their own issues. Please be considerate and mark those threads when an answer is found.
    Simply edit the original post by clicking on the 'edit' button at the lower right corner of it and prepend [SOLVED] to the title.

  2. Please use appropriate post titles
    Choosing an accurate, descriptive and appropriate post title will attract solutions effectively and help other users, when utilizing the forum search feature, to find a solution.
    Good post titles: "recent problems with ata1 - exception Emask 0x10", "/dev/snd/* permissions problem"
    Bad post titles: "Help!!!", "Noob question!", "Almost there"

  3. Avoid Bikeshed Topics
    Bikeshed topics are those that only solicit opinion; an opinion that has likely been canvassed many times before over the years. These threads will either be moved to Topics Going Nowhere, or more probably, closed and marked for deletion. Some examples include:
    • What Language Should I Learn?
    • What Desktop Environment or Window Manager Should I Use?
    • Vim or Emacs?
    • What Laptop Should I Buy?
    • Tell me how to partition my drive

All of the above should also be applied. With important emphasis on #1. I hate looking for a topic and not knowing if there's going to be a solution or not, more so when the threads get really long. Also another one is not posting help topics in other threads, like the club thread or screenshot thread, as it makes finding help on those topic quite hard when you have to run through entire random talk threads for one or two posts.
post #12 of 38
The Arch Facebook page has required these and if he posting doesn't follow it's immediately deleted. There tends to be less posting and more decent conversation I wish more people followed these simple rules.
 
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post #13 of 38
What about adding something about using top? That's helped me before figure out if stuff is still running or not.
Code:
lspci | grep VGA && sudo lshw -C video

Does it not make a difference if you run lspci as root? I'm still learning stuff so could be way off about that.
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post #14 of 38
This has been one of my favorite articles since I found it in Arch's 'Forum Etiquette' wiki entry

How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

Quote:
Originally Posted by cones View Post

Does it not make a difference if you run lspci as root? I'm still learning stuff so could be way off about that.
Code:
[charles@kira:~]
$ lspci | wc -l
31
[charles@kira:~]
$ sudo lspci | wc -l
31

Doesn't look like it. I'm too lazy to diff the output though.
Edited by Ferrari8608 - 3/20/14 at 3:10pm
post #15 of 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferrari8608 View Post

This has been one of my favorite articles since I found it in Arch's 'Forum Etiquette' wiki entry

How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

We have already established that Windows people can't read, you want them to read that article! tongue.gif
post #16 of 38
Windows users usually can read, and some even read well! They just don't, usually.
post #17 of 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferrari8608 View Post

Windows users usually can read, and some even read well! They just don't, usually.

Most can't read, and the few that can, often don't.

This is backed by doing random support work over the last 6 years and attempting to help many, many Windows users. Usually ending with me either banging the phone on the desk, or banging my head on a wall after wanting to strangle them through the phone.
post #18 of 38
Common sense doesn't include the ability to read. I've had to support many Windows users as well. Most of them read well enough but lack common sense.

I know this because I often hear them reading their screen under their breath. They just don't know what to do with what they see on the screen.
post #19 of 38
I was actually speaking of Windows System Administrators, not end users.
post #20 of 38
Lol okay. Windows admins are generally useless. "I've restarted the server. See if it works now. If not, we can try restarting it again."

Unfortunately that usually does the trick, so maybe they're not completely useless.
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