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First things first, I am not stuck on AMD nor do I have to switch to intel for this build. My current system is 6 y/o or so, and the mobo has bit the dust with gts 250 as a vid card and ddr2 ram I think its time to upgrade. Looking for a gaming comp, trying to decide on a single 770\780 or sli something, basically I'm not trying to bottleneck somewhere and that's the aspects in not great at.

I have a budget of up to $1250 I have a 1200w sli compatable psu, DVD drive (not that anyone uses these things), haf 932 case (so cooling won't be a problem), and I can reuse my old hard drive if I absolutely have to( would prefer to have it as a just put junk school stuff in it).

so after looking and looking for weeks in ready to buy, but now I'm confused. Do I want FX 8350 or i7 4770k,which mobo (this is my rule, I want msi), how fast of ram I know I want 16G, how big of ssd enough to hold win7 64 bit ultimate, which nvidia card , and finally do I need to get an after market CPU fan or surely the cooler master haf932 will keep everything cool.

thank you for reading
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A little more info, I wish to game at 7835282 fps with ultra ultra settings on crysis 17.5 . I don't need monitor speakers mouse keyboard or computer desk, and I will be gaming on 1080 led tv.
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Not sure if you want to overclock or not, because that could change some things. I added a aftermarket heat sink in order to keep temperatures a bit lower then they would be on the stock. It'd also allow a moderate overclock. Do you need to buy the OS as well, because that would change everything.

I also hope I didn't forget anything.

CPU($310) - Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell 3.5GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901

GPU($500) - MSI Gaming N780 TF 3GD5/OC GeForce GTX 780 3GB 384-bit GDDR5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127746

Motherboard+RAM($250) - MSI Z87-G45 Gaming LGA 1150 Intel Z87 + G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 SDRAM 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1575131

SSD($70) - Mushkin Enhanced MKNSSDCR120GB-7 2.5" 120GB SATA III
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226424

HDD($90) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148834

CPU Cooler($35) - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120 mm PWM Fan
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

Total Price - $1256 with shipping included, rebates not included.
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a quick question, what brand power supply do you have?
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Thermaltake 1200w 80+ modular
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I do not wish to overclock at this time, not even sure how to. Obviously I'm fairly ignorant when it comes to this computer stuff. And no I do not need to purchase an OS. And that is some sexy looking stuff you picked out
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I do not wish to overclock at this time, not even sure how to.

Then you don't need a k CPU or a z87 board. If you're budget sensitive, you'd take i5 and a meaty graphics card if you don't care about multithreaded cpu performance enough to research overclocking
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Originally Posted by Melinthar View Post

I do not wish to overclock at this time, not even sure how to. Obviously I'm fairly ignorant when it comes to this computer stuff. And no I do not need to purchase an OS. And that is some sexy looking stuff you picked out

Sadly the price increase on the SSD and motherboard that happened today means it's now $50 over budget frown.gif.

Although now knowing you don't need to overclock, I could get you a cheaper z87 MSI motherboard(their selection is pretty limited). It'd allow a moderate overclock, likely up to 4ghz, without touching the voltage, but I know roughly nothing on overclocking Haswell, so I could be wrong.

I know I don't need to keep the z87, but looking at the MSI selection, but it does discount the RAM.

That would be a "free" ~15% performance boost, that you could get in about 2 minutes(Or about 20 seconds if you knew what you were going) by changing the multiplier.

Might as well keep the i7(In my opinion) since it's pretty heavily discounted at the moment.

Make the following changes to get the build back to budget.

Motherboard+RAM($225) - MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate LGA 1150 + G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1573934

SSD($80) - Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR120GB 2.5" 120GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226236

Total Price(With changes) - $1245 with shipping included. Rebates not included.
Edited by Alanim - 3/20/14 at 6:27pm
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It'd allow a moderate overclock, likely up to 4ghz, without touching the voltage, but I know roughly nothing on overclocking Haswell, so I could be wrong.

I know I don't need to keep the z87, but looking at the MSI selection, but it does discount the RAM.

That would be a "free" ~15% performance boost

At stock these chips sit at turbo all day when doing basically any nonsynthetic task*, you'd only go from 3700mhz to 4000mhz. That'd buy you 8%, not 15, unless you did more serious clockspeed changes. If you have a k-cpu and a z87 board anyway, it's probably worth it to invest in a mid range air cooler and throw 1.2-1.3v at it. It's kinda weird to get z87 if you're not doing that

*The turbo power limit is 84w, which is quite high. iGPU and the CPU use the same power budget - so if you're not loading the iGPU simultaneously, you'll probably be at 3.7 all of the time for encoding etc
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At stock these chips sit at turbo all day when doing basically any nonsynthetic task*, you'd only go from 3700mhz to 4000mhz. That'd buy you 8%, not 15, unless you did more serious clockspeed changes. If you have a k-cpu and a z87 board anyway, it's probably worth it to invest in a mid range air cooler and throw 1.2-1.3v at it. It's kinda weird to get z87 if you're not doing that

*The turbo power limit is 84w, which is quite high. iGPU and the CPU use the same power budget - so if you're not loading the iGPU simultaneously, you'll probably be at 3.7 all of the time for encoding etc

I always forget about turbo mode, so you're right the 4.0ghz overclock would be near pointless. It also turns out the 4770k turbos for 3.9ghz. So the performance gain would be almost nothing.

A xeon would also be $60 cheaper(only boosts to 3.7ghz). which would also be nice, and MSI sells a H87 motherboard that look nicer then the Z87 I linked(excluding the lack of overclocking)

So here's another possibility with the following changes.

CPU($250) - Intel Xeon E3-1230V3 Haswell 3.3GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1150 80W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116906

Motherboard+RAM($215) - MSI H87-G43 LGA 1150 Intel H87 + G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1573941

Total price(with changes) - $1171 with shipping included, rebates not included.
Edited by Alanim - 3/20/14 at 7:51pm
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