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Well I keep finding deals on ssd's and the 4770 I found yesterday for 309$ and I'll get a smaller hd just a 1tb.
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A little more info, I wish to game at 7835282 fps with ultra ultra settings on crysis 17.5 . I don't need monitor speakers mouse keyboard or computer desk, and I will be gaming on 1080 led tv.
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You want the 4770K then biggrin.gif
or 4670K eek.gif

Hyperthreading doesn't do much for gaming...
I'd say get a 4670K and go bigger on the GPU

This mobo would be good: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138380

Get a 60-128GB SSD for OS and games and a 500-1TB for storage wink.gif

RAM:Well the pickins are pretty slim for that nowadays..seems like it's all MFR sozo.gif

These are Microns..I have some and they're pretty nice: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148557

The only ones that tighten up better are Hypers and PSC.

If you get any other RAM look @ the 2x8GB kits,because all the others are CAS11 and single-sided thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
 
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3dLKp Ok through everyone's help and input I put all this together, do you peoples foresee any bottle necking or incompatabilities. Thank you for assistance in this pricy endeavor smile.gif
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With i7 OC, you'll most likely want stronger cooling. Something like higher end air or a h100i. The hyper 212 is low-midrange at best, i would never recommend it when dealing with Haswell i7. It was a good cooler for saying hey, here's $20, throw it on a 2500k - it's not so good now, with heat being a bigger problem for Haswell and especially overclocked i7

If that goes too far out of budget, you'd likely be happier with a 4670k and midrange cooling (4670k is ~10c cooler than 4770k at the same voltage)

The 4670k encodes as fast as a 3770k or an overclocked FX 8-"core" cpu - they're not bad in this situation, i7 is just more of a premium product now for that last 15-20% encoding speed boost, but they're more expensive and also harder to cool. The added cost for cooling to maintain the same overclock on top of the chip cost and lack of performance help in most CPU bound games is what makes it hard to justify - though the extra FPS encoding vids is nice.

With my silver arrow, with a temp limit of 80c peaks under sustained encoding (~99% average cpu load 8 threads for 15+mins), i can use about 1.27vcore with Hyperthreading (scotland ambients) and 1.35 or so without it (i5)
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With i7 OC, you'll most likely want stronger cooling. Something like higher end air or a h100i. The hyper 212 is low-midrange at best, i would never recommend it when dealing with Haswell i7. It was a good cooler for saying hey, here's $20, throw it on a 2500k - it's not so good now, with heat being a bigger problem for Haswell and especially overclocked i7


Totally disagree.

My 3930k is OC'd @ 4.8 using the Hyper 212 and it's never been hotter than 65c.
Under normal load it runs at 43c.
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Totally disagree.

My 3930k is OC'd @ 4.8 using the Hyper 212 and it's never been hotter than 65c.
Under normal load it runs at 43c.

I'm talking about Haswell i7. No solder - also, what voltage is that 4.8? It's probably not particularly high. Sandy bridge is not Haswell - that's why i used a 2500k in the example.


I can just state now that with room temps a little below 20c, my case probably reaches maybe 23-25c max - if i encode for 20 mins on 1.265vcore i'l peak 80c. I have records. I could be using 0.15vcore higher if i had sufficient cooling - and this is a silver arrow we're talking about here, a hyper 212 have to lower voltage by a significant margin no question

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I'm not saying to take my word for it, just head on over to the Haswell overclocking thread (with statistics) where there's >100 chips charted and like 12'000 posts with a ton of regulars, and ask if you should get a hyper212 with a 4770k+gtx780 build wink.gif

If you're budget sensitive to the point of wanting a h212 instead of a meaty air cooler or 240/280mm clc, then i really must say that i would have strong bias towards i5 for gaming/encoding and a lot of people would back that up

Here's some of my data, just 4 minute encode on this log but temps are pretty much leveled out

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post #27 of 39
Hmm. I'm going to throw this out there,since it seems you want maximum future proofing.
i7 4820K
EVGA X79 Classified
4x4GB GSkill Trident 2400MHz RAM
MSI 770 4GB Gaming
Samsung EVO 120 GB SSD
CoolerMaster Eisberg AIO 120mm cooler
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Redwoodz/saved/47Gd

Pros= Socket 2011 has 6 core to upgrade to
Quad channel 2400MHz memory
Full PCI-E lanes if you decide to go SLi
4GB GPU memory if you decide to go SLI

Cons= Tad slower than 4770K in games(.05%)
Downgrade GPU from 780 to 770
Edited by Redwoodz - 3/21/14 at 10:34am
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post #28 of 39
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Hmm. I'm going to throw this out there,since it seems you want maximum future proofing.
i7 4820K
EVGA X79 Classified
4x4GB GSkill Trident 2400MHz RAM
MSI 770 4GB Gaming
CoolerMaster Eisberg AIO 120mm cooler
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Redwoodz/saved/47Gd

Pros= Socket 2011 will be Haswell E compatible
Quad channel 2400MHz memory
Full PCI-E lanes if you decide to go SLi
4GB GPU memory if you decide to go SLI

Cons= Tad slower than 4770K in games(.05%)
Downgrade GPU from 780 to 770

That's an Ivy bridge CPU - LGA2011 platform is very expensive

770 to 780 is a ~40% rise if you're clocking hard, like 30% if you're not. It's a pretty big deal. The x79 classified will not support Haswell-E. 120mm AIO coolers are also quite weak and need to make sure not overspending on the RAM. 4gb VRAM gk104 is also just pretty ecky. It costs too much to try to be something that it's not.

TBH, don't like this build at all
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- also, what voltage is that 4.8? It's probably not particularly high.



Heck if I know.
I just used the built in OC feature on the MOBO.

1.43 (I think)
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That's an Ivy bridge CPU - LGA2011 platform is very expensive

770 to 780 is a ~40% rise if you're clocking hard, like 30% if you're not. It's a pretty big deal. The x79 classified will not support Haswell-E. 120mm AIO coolers are also quite weak and need to make sure not overspending on the RAM. 4gb VRAM gk104 is also just pretty ecky. It costs too much to try to be something that it's not.

TBH, don't like this build at all

Corrected Haswell ref. thumb.gif
2011 is really not that expensive,as you can see.It also has better future proofing due to increased PCI-E lanes,and quad channel memory which by far greater than any bandwith available with 1150. To be honest I would wait for Haswell-E and the X99 chipset.
OP stated he will not be overclocking I believe. If configured correctly a 120mm AIO can easily outperform a similarly priced air cooler over a wider range of temperatures. And yes 4GB of GPU is overkill...until you go SLI. Just things to think about.


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