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A few months ago AMD and Dice released a patch (and driver) which enabled the first real world example of Mantle. For those who haven't heard Mantle is a platform which replaces DirectX when using AMD cards, allowing game developers better access to the GPU with the benefit, in many scenarios, of enhancing performance.

Today AMD and Square Enix release an updated driver and patch for Thief which adds support for Mantle. Here we take a quick look at some performance figures.




http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1956/pg1/thief-mantle-performance-full-article.html
post #2 of 89
AMD's own graphs are pretty lol worthy to be honest. 1080p, medium settings and using high end GPUs for the improvement percentage numbers.

HH's own testing is much more realistic.

1080p maxed with 290X: Mantle 3% faster than DX
4K maxed with 290X: DX 13% faster than mantle
 
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i literally laughed out loud just thinking about buying a $500+ card to play a game on medium settings at 1080p with no anti-aliasing
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might be a small increase but it's still an increase....for free

It's better on lesser CPU's tbf

I tried this mantle driver on this game and I think it looked brighter than DX
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AMD's own graphs are pretty lol worthy to be honest. 1080p, medium settings and using high end GPUs for the improvement percentage numbers.

HH's own testing is much more realistic.

1080p maxed with 290X: Mantle 3% faster than DX
4K maxed with 290X: DX 13% faster than mantle

I didn't bother linking them all, just the one with intel cpu. I'm using mantle and there is a substantial difference @ 1600p 290x xfire, if that's of any interest.
post #6 of 89
Well, Mantle is ofc not going to be of any greater use with such an extreme system.


Am I really the only one thinking that these are great results, even if it's not what we would want on OCN (which would be improvements that would take our already highpowered rigs to mach-5)?
Raising the lowest common denominator is usually always good for very obvious reasons. thumb.gif
    
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Well, the point of Mantle was reduce processor requirements, not to mystically get the GPU to double its performance.

Of course a 4960X is going to see little improvements! Now, my Phenom? That's a whole different story.
   
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Well, Mantle is ofc not going to be of any greater use with such an extreme system.


Am I really the only one thinking that these are great results, even if it's not what we would want on OCN (which would be improvements that would take our already highpowered rigs to mach-5)?
Raising the lowest common denominator is usually always good for very obvious reasons. thumb.gif

My min fps went from 30 to 41, which surprised me. Game runs smoother too. I'm guessing that with a single card there would be little difference, the crossfire cpu overhead is helped a lot though, it would seem.

Needless to say i'll be running it in mantle from now on.
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AMD's own graphs are pretty lol worthy to be honest. 1080p, medium settings and using high end GPUs for the improvement percentage numbers.

HH's own testing is much more realistic.

1080p maxed with 290X: Mantle 3% faster than DX
4K maxed with 290X: DX 13% faster than mantle

reminds me of the FUD MS spread about OGL back i nthe day. i'm calling it mantle was rather pointless from day other than it light a fire under DX and OGL to improve.
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Well, the point of Mantle was reduce processor requirements, not to mystically get the GPU to double its performance.

Of course a 4960X is going to see little improvements! Now, my Phenom? That's a whole different story.

100% this !
8350 is getting 70% increase, its clearly showing how slower 8350 is, .....when its with 290x.
Intel i7s are really strong enough to pull ~90% power from a single highest end card.
But this doesn't end here, crossfire is where the performance gain should be over >50% at least. And this would be the most significant gain.
Imo people with i7s and AMD GPU still ought to admire the free performance increase.
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