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So with a 4,8 ghz 3770k and 7970 1250/1600

Mantle ( i cant screenshot)

44.3
80.2
60.3

Directx



Mantle vram=2700mb
Dx vram=2300mb
Edited by sugarhell - 3/20/14 at 7:56am
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It is more of a CPU test is all...they keep toting Mantle as a GPU asset, but according to the info we have so far it helps out the CPU more than anything else.

So this is more along the lines of testing a game on lowest settings with a highend GPU during CPU benches and comparing. You'll see things like one CPU getting 150fps and another getting 300fps and some people will say that it is meaningless, but those results would mean that, for that one game at least, one CPU is twice as powerful as the other.

However...that is just a bench. In the real world you won't be running the game on low or medium with this hardware. So in that regard it is a worthless test. Unless their goal was to sell more of their lower end hardware. Let's face it...AMD isn't having much problem getting people to buy their higher end stuff. The midrange and low end gear is where the money is at and if that hardware can get a performance boost from Mantle so that it can play Thief...well, there might be a lot more happy customers.

it is nowhere near those lines.... No bench was done on low.

Talk about twisting.
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So with a 4,8 ghz 3770k and 7970 1250/1600

Mantle ( i cant screenshot)

44.3
80.2
60.3

Directx



Mantle vram=2700mb
Dx vram=2300mb

What settings?
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Max everything.Crossfire doesnt work with mantle atm so i cant compare dx vs mantle crossfire
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max settings at 1440P (High MSAA) on my 780Ti uses 2.9GBVRAM smile.gif Mantle seems to take much more liberty with VRAM though. I think this just reflects this way because DirectX is quite unpredictable when it comes to caching and using VRAM so developers tend not to go to mental.
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Max everything.Crossfire doesnt work with mantle atm so i cant compare dx vs mantle crossfire

What voltage did you use to get 1250mhz on core?
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What voltage did you use to get 1250mhz on core?

1.2 volts.
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1.2 volts.

Hmm... Mine is stable in crysis 3 but not in bf4.

Did you mod power limit?
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Hmm... Mine is stable in crysis 3 but not in bf4.

Did you mod power limit?

No point. The power limit is on the bios and you cant bypass that with a simple registry tweak. I have hex edit my bios for more volts and power limit + no powerplay but now i am using my regular 24/7 bios
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It is more of a CPU test is all...they keep toting Mantle as a GPU asset, but according to the info we have so far it helps out the CPU more than anything else.

So this is more along the lines of testing a game on lowest settings with a highend GPU during CPU benches and comparing. You'll see things like one CPU getting 150fps and another getting 300fps and some people will say that it is meaningless, but those results would mean that, for that one game at least, one CPU is twice as powerful as the other.

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it is nowhere near those lines.... No bench was done on low.

Talk about twisting.


Medium nets the same effect...it removed any chance of a GPU bottle neck...especially with the 290X. Really I've said for the last couple years the CPU tests should be done on more medium-ish settings anyway since the low settings will often disable a lot of key features that might drastically effect CPU performance.

Though don't get me wrong. I am sure this was done to show how great Mantle was and the only way to show that was with more of a CPU test...but they are trying to sell Mantle as something that will help GPUs.


Though what is "Normal" and "High" settings for Thief? Can you go lower than "Normal" settings? Can you go Higher than "High"? Is Normal really a medium setting?
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 3/20/14 at 8:28am
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No point. The power limit is on the bios and you cant bypass that with a simple registry tweak. I have hex edit my bios for more volts and power limit + no powerplay but now i am using my regular 24/7 bios

will try changing my power limit in bios later.

nice improvement by mantle with that overclocked cpu though.
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