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AMD counts logical cores and NOT physical cores like Intel does. Their 8-cores are 8-threads through 4 cores at $200 to be accurate.
Come on are people still spreading this nonsense. It is not 8 logical cores, Its not hyper-threaded Cores. Its 8 integer processing cores each paired on a 2 core per pipe resource. I'm not saying its a better design but it is still 8 cores.
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AMD counts logical cores and NOT physical cores like Intel does. Their 8-cores are 8-threads through 4 cores at $200 to be accurate.
Come on are people still spreading this nonsense. It is not 8 logical cores, Its not hyper-threaded Cores. Its 8 integer processing cores each paired on a 2 core per pipe resource. I'm not saying its a better design but it is still 8 cores.

People aren't saying they're not 8 cores, the majority of the people are saying that they're half baked. They can't match what an intel core can do. Not because of software but because of shere IPC rolleyes.gif
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I heart that LGA2011-3 will support both DDr3 and DDR4.

I haven't heard this. Do you have a credible source?

DDR3 & 4 have different sockets and for a CPU to be compatible with both would require a significantly more complex memory controller.

Thus far, Intel has never had an IMC that supports multiple generations of memory, even though a few of their older MCHs did.
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Would disabling hyperthreading be benifitial with this chip to force the physical cores to be used while playing an 8 core usable game like BF4? Or will the chip automatically do it.

Any remotely modern OS where cores are not parked should schedule threads to physical cores first.

I'm pretty sure even Windows XP does this.
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AMD counts logical cores and NOT physical cores like Intel does.

AMD core counts are physical cores. An FX module has two physical cores, even if they share more resources than is typical in most other contemporary architectures.

It's not a form of SMT.
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People aren't saying they're not 8 cores, the majority of the people are saying that they're half baked. They can't match what an intel core can do. Not because of software but because of shere IPC rolleyes.gif

This is a more reasonable assertion. Performance for a given transistor count/die area is flatly poor on the FX line.

That said, from a consumer perspective, the price reflects this and they can be a good value, "half-baked" or not.
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I heart that LGA2011-3 will support both DDr3 and DDR4.

I haven't heard this. Do you have a credible source?

DDR3 & 4 have different sockets and for a CPU to be compatible with both would require a significantly more complex memory controller.

Thus far, Intel has never had an IMC that supports multiple generations of memory, even though a few of their older MCHs did.

I think the confusion arose when there was a mention that Haswell-E was supposed to support 288 and 284 pin sticks. When people saw support for two pin counts they assumed that meant ddr4 and ddr3 support, forgetting that ddr3 is 240pin. As far as I understand, Haswell-E only supports ddr4
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yeah not gonna upgrade for this unless it's 20nm
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yeah not gonna upgrade for this unless it's 20nm

It's already 22nm, the next step is 14nm.
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I'm confused, is this Haswell-E or is this the Haswell Refresh? If it's the latter then I'll upgrade to a Z87 platform this summer
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I'm confused, is this Haswell-E or is this the Haswell Refresh? If it's the latter then I'll upgrade to a Z87 platform this summer

This is -E, on the X99 platform.
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I'm confused, is this Haswell-E or is this the Haswell Refresh? If it's the latter then I'll upgrade to a Z87 platform this summer

Definitely go with the Z87, this is way too expensive and for gaming, you will never need a monster like the X99 (Not in 2014 anyways)
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i'm excited for the devil's canyon because my 4770k overclocks like crap.
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