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I think this is going to be a worty upgrade to my i7 920 / Foxconn / DDR3 combo and go for a new DDR4 platform under water smile.gif Now I've set my thoughts to this, this can't come fast enough tongue.gif
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I've lowered my CPU to 1.6GHz and when it came to surfing the net it performed just fine, which is why Bay Trail is acceptable. You don't need 5GHz to load a website. Thus CPU doesn't matter for the average person.

I completely disagree with this assessment. As bloated as websites have become in the last five years with megabytes of Javascript and other crap being used, I've found that a decent web browsing experience is probably the single biggest reason for promoting a faster processor to the average user. It's funny, too, given how the tech community used to rightly use the line, "if all you're going to do is email and web browsing" as a reason to promote some low power products like Durons, Celerons, and Atoms.
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with a 1,000 price tag it should be a monster.

AMD 8 core is 800 dollars cheaper too be fair...

plus you will have hyper threading
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I've lowered my CPU to 1.6GHz and when it came to surfing the net it performed just fine, which is why Bay Trail is acceptable. You don't need 5GHz to load a website. Thus CPU doesn't matter for the average person.

While you start talking about badly coded games it's the fault of developers that games run terribly. I still can't fathom why Skyrim and Starcraft 2 were coded in x87, which was replaced over a decade ago by SSE. Those who came up with this idiotic idea should be put in a rocket on a one way holiday trip to Alpha Centauri, they won't be missed.

lol the part about the alpha centauri made me laugh very hard hahahahaha

some asked blizzard if they would ever use more than 2cores in up commings games AKA SC2 Legacy of void... they said NO... thats really very stupid on their part.
we are not on 2010... and the last expansion will be out in 2015...
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I completely disagree with this assessment. As bloated as websites have become in the last five years with megabytes of Javascript and other crap being used, I've found that a decent web browsing experience is probably the single biggest reason for promoting a faster processor to the average user. It's funny, too, given how the tech community used to rightly use the line, "if all you're going to do is email and web browsing" as a reason to promote some low power products like Durons, Celerons, and Atoms.

At 1.6GHz my CPU was more than adequate for surfing, even with over 60 tabs open in Opera and FF.
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For some people, "acceptable" performance is good enough.
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you own macs

And let me guess, you own 1366x768 notebooks with cheapo AMD APU crap?
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I completely disagree with this assessment. As bloated as websites have become in the last five years with megabytes of Javascript and other crap being used, I've found that a decent web browsing experience is probably the single biggest reason for promoting a faster processor to the average user. It's funny, too, given how the tech community used to rightly use the line, "if all you're going to do is email and web browsing" as a reason to promote some low power products like Durons, Celerons, and Atoms.

The perceivable difference in browsing between an Intel Pentum, versus their i7 brother, is minimal at best. There is a notable difference between something like an Atom and a Pentium, but not so much after the Pentium when it comes to web browsing.
    
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Everyone has their own level of tolerance. I find myself impatient even with something like an FX-8350 or 3930K. Sites are just unbearably slow to the point where I get frustrated during browsing. Sometimes I bail entirely. It's not for want of bandwidth, either, but rather CPU time used in parsing the bloated markup and executing the bloated pile of scripts common on sites today. Noscript and ABP help, but I still hate the modern web. The web browsing situation was much better in the mid 2000s.
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I agree that AMD needs to get it's single threaded performance up, there's no doubt about that. However, AMD's 8 core CPUs are right at the top of most multi threaded benchmarks and real world usage scenarios... for usually far less money.

If all you do is play video games on your PC, buy an Intel i5 quad core and game on but if you like to multi task, encode video a lot or anything else that uses many cores, you will not be disappointed with an AMD FX CPU.
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3930K/4930K are 50%-100% faster than FX 8 core CPUs when using all threads. And don't even mention single/lightly threaded scenarios.

Or did you mean the i5s? Then yes, AMD's 8 core CPUs perform slightly better than Intel i5 quad cores in highly threaded scenarios.
I wouldn't be surprised if Haswell-E 5930K 8 core CPUs are 200% faster than 8 core FX CPUs when using all threads. It's not 5-6x the performance but still embarrassing for AMD.

Here we go with the typical AMD basher... let's compare a $569 Intel CPU to a $180 dollar AMD CPU... yeah you're on ignore from now on.
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