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whats to compare?

one is cheaper and has lower performance

one is more expensive and has higher performance


get what you pay for etc etc
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Here we go with the typical AMD basher... let's compare a $569 Intel CPU to a $180 dollar AMD CPU... yeah you're on ignore from now on.

Let's just forget how AMD attempted to charge $300 for Bulldozer only for the market to tell them "No Way!". The truth is AMD wanted to charge a lot more for their CPU, but then nobody would buy them at those prices.
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On topic, if you have the coin, I'm sure these will be impressive CPUs. I will never waste the money on one (because I am cheap) but I am sure we will see many OCNers with them.
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Let's just forget how AMD attempted to charge $300 for Bulldozer only for the market to tell them "No Way!". The truth is AMD wanted to charge a lot more for their CPU, but then nobody would buy them at those prices.

That has absolutely nothing to do with my conversation... everyone wants to charge more for their product and the market dictates the price. Price high at launch then reduce as time goes on. Did you just hatch yesterday?
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I completely disagree with this assessment. As bloated as websites have become in the last five years with megabytes of Javascript and other crap being used, I've found that a decent web browsing experience is probably the single biggest reason for promoting a faster processor to the average user. It's funny, too, given how the tech community used to rightly use the line, "if all you're going to do is email and web browsing" as a reason to promote some low power products like Durons, Celerons, and Atoms.
Why do you think low-power products exist in the first place?
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Everyone has their own level of tolerance. I find myself impatient even with something like an FX-8350 or 3930K. Sites are just unbearably slow to the point where I get frustrated during browsing. Sometimes I bail entirely. It's not for want of bandwidth, either, but rather CPU time used in parsing the bloated markup and executing the bloated pile of scripts common on sites today. Noscript and ABP help, but I still hate the modern web. The web browsing situation was much better in the mid 2000s.
If websites are loading "unbearably slow" you either have defective hardware, lots of malware or heavy programs running in the background, slow internet connection, or something's wrong with your browser and addons/extensions.
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Ever heard of supporting the underdog

Why? Why support the underdog when someone else makes better products? Does the underdog pay you to buy their products? Then i dont understand the logic behind it. Explain it to me

BTW - I love how my reputation is well known.. lachen.gif
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There is no doubt that anyone if they had the money would prefer the Intel solution as it is def superior and has been for a while. I am sure it would be a joy for most people to play with a Haswell-E; even AMD fans.

However I am thinking real world performance and that a grand these days could build an AMD rig that a regular user wouldn't tell the difference between in probably 98 percent of the things they do.

This argument has been beat to do death and enthusiasts think much different than the general public who goes by the least they can spend/get the most for when it comes to computers in my 10 years of experience as a repairman.
    
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There is no doubt that anyone if they had the money would prefer the Intel solution as it is def superior and has been for a while. I am sure it would be a joy for most people to play with a Haswell-E; even AMD fans.

However I am thinking real world performance and that a grand these days could build an AMD rig that a regular user wouldn't tell the difference between in probably 98 percent of the things they do.

This argument has been beat to do death and enthusiasts think much different than the general public who goes by the least they can spend/get the most for when it comes to computers in my 10 years of experience as a repairman.

I have been riding that horse for a very long time. People tend to get hung up on synthetic benchmark numbers, and don't realize they really don't translate into the real world. In nearly every situation you could run a flagship Intel and a flagship AMD next to each other, and people couldn't tell you the difference if they didn't know which was which.
    
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Why? Why support the underdog when someone else makes better products? Does the underdog pay you to buy their products? Then i dont understand the logic behind it. Explain it to me

BTW - I love how my reputation is well known.. lachen.gif

It just happens that in CPUs there are only two companies that deal with consumer products.
It's not like everywhere in the world it is just black or white, blue or red.

Supporting the "underdog" with your purchases ensures that competition will exist for market evolution to be catered for the consumer.
If there was no AMD, you would still be dealing with P4s.

Yes, there is a lot of merit in supporting diversity in the marketplace, otherwise the "upper-dog" will consume and level it...it is a proven fact that the market rarely "regulates itself" with the consumer in mind. Monopolies have both the pie and the knife to slice it in as many/small pieces as they like.

Yes, Intel is the performance king, but for most of the stuff we do - including gaming - the difference is much smaller than we make it sound - many of us with no real life experience.
Yet we elevate it to a matter of life or death...we even get to hear that you won't have decent internet browsing experience without the best possible IPC CPUs...while 3/4 or more of internet connected devices are phones, old laptops and tablets with abysmally less processing power...get real guys...

We don't need cutting edge performance for w/e we do...I bet if you were reading supercar forums, the wealthy owners of those would swear that unless you are driving a 400+ PS Porsche you haven't lived automotive life while the Ferrari owners would draw that line @ 500PS and RWD, and the Morgan owners would downplay HP and focus that if you cannot tell if the coin you've run over is head or tails - your suspension is not stiff enough...thus you don't "feel the road", and that's it is not the size that matters etc etc. Things that "regular drivers could never understand"...

Same deal with OCN: sometimes we polarize for no reason, just to overstate the fact that our ego is aligned with the best and to justify our consumerism.
I work side by sides with a stock 4930K and a 8350...most of the stuff I do are single threaded (not gaming with either) and both equally suck in some stuff (i.e. Autodesk Revit, if it is laggy in one, lags in the other just as bad). Since both are SSD'd and have 32GB of RAM, things do feel ok till the sh@t hits the fan.

Yes, my sig rigs are both faster, but not everybody runs clocked CPUs - we tend to forget that.
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I have been riding that horse for a very long time. People tend to get hung up on synthetic benchmark numbers, and don't realize they really don't translate into the real world. In nearly every situation you could run a flagship Intel and a flagship AMD next to each other, and people couldn't tell you the difference if they didn't know which was which.

I was typing while you were too...i second your hypothesis, and I sorta agree from 1st person perspective.
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It just happens that in CPUs there are only two companies that deal with consumer products.
It's not like everywhere in the world it is just black or white, blue or red.

Supporting the "underdog" with your purchases ensures that competition will exist for market evolution to be catered for the consumer.
If there was no AMD, you would still be dealing with P4s.

If there isn't an AMD, the government would have split Intel into two or more separate companies to compete with each other if a new competitor don't emerge. It is the same as how they broke up the Bell system in 1984.

I just don't buy this "If AMD no longer exist horrible things will happen and we will be stuck with the overpriced outdated Intel CPU forever, therefore we must support the underdog " fear mongering.

That's about as far fetched as "buying energy inefficient AMD CPU will accelerate global warming, therefore we should always buy Intel CPUs."
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