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It most likely remains elusive because you think I'm talking about a subject I've made no mention of. I have been talking about how bloated websites are and have made no comment about the performance delta between AMD and Intel cores. For the purposes of my viewpoint, neither one is fast enough so the difference between the two is inconsequential.

The problem you are experiencing can't be solved by any CPU as nothing will be fast enough to deal with bloat, laziness and stupidity, as we've found out with Blizzard and Bethesda.
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who cares about those cpus? when you can get basically the same performance with a 4770K 3930K 4930K?

You are wasting your time with him, he worships at Intel's altar (possibly with paychecks?).
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lol its no secret that stay puft prefers intel cpus over amd cpus, but what hes saying is true. Intel isnt paying some random guy on some random forums to tell the truth for them, they have an entire marketing team for that who gets paid wayyy more than any of us probably ever do.
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You have to be ruthless in business or you will never survive

That's a bad excuse to justify those that do it, and cultivates a society of takers.

We are not all ruthless, we are not all bad, and you don't have to be to be successful. Even in a society of takers.
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Go.enjoy failure somewhere else then.
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who cares about those cpus? when you can get basically the same performance with a 4770K 3930K 4930K?

That's not the point of his post. The point is that AMD being noncompetitive on the high end didn't lead to Intel charging more and more for their flagship chips:

3930K and 4930K have been priced in the exact same range ($550-$600 depend on the vendor, Intel box price $593 according to Ark). Even though they are released 2 years apart and AMD have no consumer product capable of challenging Intel hexcore performance during all that time.

p.s You are not going to get the same video editing performance ( or other heavily mutli-threaded workloads) or amount of PCI-E 3.0 lanes from a 4770K compared to a 3930K/4930K, hence why they are priced differently.
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I find it hilarious when people blame the CPU for something that isn't even the fault of the CPU. Such as slow paging times on the Net. Unless you have a T100 line and are running a single core Pentium the CPU typically has NOTHING to do with stalls and slow paging times. Not even Intel can solve that in their architecture. rolleyes.gif

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lol its no secret that stay puft prefers intel cpus over amd cpus, but what hes saying is true. Intel isnt paying some random guy on some random forums to tell the truth for them, they have an entire marketing team for that who gets paid wayyy more than any of us probably ever do.

No he isn't, no monopoly has ever worked in the favour of the consumer so his fanatic support of Intel is ridiculous and it was long established that governments and firms hire trolls to ensure debate is directed in certain ways.
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so what im reading is....you dont like amd you must work for intel. got it.
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That's not the point of his post. The point is that AMD being noncompetitive on the high end didn't lead to Intel charging more and more for their flagship chips:

3930K and 4930K have been priced in the exact same range ($550-$600 depend on the vendor, Intel box price $593 according to Ark). Even though they are released 2 years apart and AMD have no consumer product capable of challenging Intel hexcore performance during all that time.

p.s You are not going to get the same video editing performance ( or other heavily mutli-threaded workloads) or amount of PCI-E 3.0 lanes from a 4770K compared to a 3930K/4930K, hence why they are priced differently.

Then it strikes you that the low to midrange is where the money is made, not on the 5% who build their own PC's or the 5% of those 5% who overclock. While the margin on the highest performing part is the highest Intel and AMD certainly never made the bulk of their money off them. Those CPU's are used for advertising while they ship millions of low end CPU's to people who think that just because either side have the best CPU their low end dual core is better than the competition, simply because they can't think for themselves.

Had a discussion with someone years ago who said that because nVidia had the fastest video card his 50 Euro card was better than my 9800Pro. The lack of logic in the argument was astounding and made me realise the meaning of sheeple long before it was coined.
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