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In what way is it not fully functional?

Perhaps not fully documented to your satisfaction (and we do not know what resources licensees are granted), but how is it not feature complete?

Go into some of the catalyst threads, you;ll find some instances. Its not candy and rainbows.
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Go into some of the catalyst threads, you;ll find some instances. Its not candy and rainbows.

I'm in those threads. Instances of what? That in some cases having a fast Intel CPU shows minimal gains? That should not be surprising.

Or is there something else? Not being a jerk, honestly curious to this line of argument that Mantle isn't currently a fixed feature set.
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I'm in those threads. Instances of what? That in some cases having a fast Intel CPU shows minimal gains? That should not be surprising.

Or is there something else? Not being a jerk, honestly curious to this line of argument that Mantle isn't currently a fixed feature set.

I'm not arguing its a fixed feature. I'm arguing that its fully functional at its current state.
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Go into some of the catalyst threads, you;ll find some instances. Its not candy and rainbows.

Go into any thread, about any software, about any API, about any ISV, about any IHV, about any driver, about any game, and you'll find the exact same thing. Other than that, what Altar and a couple others are spewing is pure FUD and lies. Mantle is here, it's in games, it's funcional, it is a big boost for gamers and it's 2 years ahead of anything else.
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I'm not arguing its a fixed feature. I'm arguing that its (not? sic.) fully functional at its current state.

Yeah but you're not arguing that particularly well. I haven't seen any examples of that, and you seem to hand-wave my request for evidence away.
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Mantle doesn't even have a beta SDK out yet. Right now it's basically invite only for devs picked by AMD.

The same phase that DX12 is entering some time before the public "preview" launches (and it's supposed to launch this year).

That's for the APIs themselves. Sure the select devs who get early access can release games based on those APIs as long as there are drivers offered and MS/AMD allows the game to be released. But that doesn't really mean that the API is ready and fully launched. Not by a long shot.
 
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post #197 of 229
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Go into some of the catalyst threads, you;ll find some instances. Its not candy and rainbows.

Go into any thread, about any software, about any API, about any ISV, about any IHV, about any driver, about any game, and you'll find the exact same thing. Other than that, what Altar and a couple others are spewing is pure FUD and lies. Mantle is here, it's in games, it's funcional, it is a big boost for gamers and it's 2 years ahead of anything else.

When mantle gives 10% increase with a lot of problems here and there, you guys say it's in it's BETA stage, and when someone says mantle is not fully functional, or was rushed, you say it is fully functional. I don't get why you guys contradict yourselves redface.gif.

Bottom-line: Mantle is not fully functional and has a lot of growing to do to enable it work almost perfectly. When you see a spade, call it a spade (-_-)"
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Yeah but you're not arguing that particularly well. I haven't seen any examples of that, and you seem to hand-wave my request for evidence away.

I told you to read through the catalyst threads, which wouldnt have taken too long to find 1 example. I myself have issues with Mantle with my rig. Do you need more evident? Youre making Mantle out to be a golden egg or something, which its not. Mantle is still beta and will continue to be beta for a long time. That is my argument. I'm sure dx12 will be the same when its out.
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Let's start discussing things without personal attacks gentlemen.

If you can't disprove what someone is saying without evidence, personal attacks instead solve nothing.
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Bottom-line: Mantle is not fully functional and has a lot of growing to do to enable it work almost perfectly. When you see a spade, call it a spade (-_-)"

Thank you.
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