Originally Posted by HollywoodGKS
Yeah, this is kind of relevant... I mean sure, i'm a gamer, but an ultrabook was the right choice for me because I don't want to play games on my laptop. I want portability, build quality, and battery life.
Remember, buying a "gaming" laptop is kind of an oxymoron; it is going to be mediocre at best for gaming, and it's going to be big, heavy, and probably get abysmal battery life. If you have to only have one computer, I can see having to make the compromise, but if not...
Buy an awesome gaming PC for 2K, and spend the remaining 1K on a high quality ultrabook or Thinkpad.
He's asking for the best $3000 laptop, not desktop/laptop combo. You're right in that we do need to know his requirements and usage to really give him a solid answer. the rest of your response, however...
Buying a gaming laptop is not an oxymoron... The hardware that is out, in the last year or two has been awesome, and the 800 series stuff just got released this month. When the true maxwell stuff hits, were looking at a possible 50% performance increase. A laptop for $800 that just happens to have some low end GPU is not a gaming laptop, and I agree is mediocre. But with a $3000 budget he can get a serious laptop that will be built for gaming, and will do it well... You will pay for it, it will be heavy, and the batttery life will be pretty poor.... I have always assumed people buy gaming laptops for the mobile power, not the battery life or the ability to game on battery. Though nvidia has released some new tech with the 800m series that is supposed to control clock speeds while gaming to extend battery life.
Due to my situation, I've been gaming on laptops for the last 2 years as my primary machine, and all but 1 have been dual GPU M18x's that will handle anything I throw at them on high or close to the highest settings. Common sense in use and a notebook cooler has prevented over heating, and the unique mux switch in them allows me to completely disable the GPUs with a keystroke and reboot. I will then get 4+ hours of battery life. Pretty good for something I can play anything I want on. The heavy argument is valid, but still lighter than carrying a desktop, keyboard, mouse, speakers, and monitor around.
I would also like to mention, that through buying used or through dells Refurbished outlet with coupons, I have never paid more than $1600 for one.
Twisted, If you're tossing out alienware because they're ugly, you're seriously limiting yourself from some awesome hardware, though this latest generation is sort of lackluster with overclocking features and what not. But if you're not interested in them, there are other options.
But to really make a good recommendation we need to know what you're going to do with it. What size you would prefer, and any specific requirements you will need hardware wise.