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Hi-Fi is a unit less concept. It can't be turned into numbers, so there is no official, measurable definition
If you define "Hi-Fi" as "The amount of money you have to spend get sound quality that is acceptable", I think its different for different groups of people.
For example:
OCN: $200 and up
Me: $3.000 and up
Audiogon: $20,000 and up

Ascend Sierra-2, Sierra RAAL towers, Salk RAAL Songtowers, Kef LS50, Revel Performa 3 M106 are examples of a few products under $3,000, would you consider them hifi, or is the price tag what defines hifi for you?
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Ascend Sierra-2, Sierra RAAL towers, Salk RAAL Songtowers, Kef LS50, Revel Performa 3 M106 are examples of a few products under $3,000, would you consider them hifi, or is the price tag what defines hifi for you?

IMO the best way to categorize is to first figure out how will you classify hi fi vs low fi. Price is a good indication... But for example, if you have a $3000 audio setup, that $3000 has to be the best or close to the best audio $3000 of cash can buy or else measuring by price is pointless. If we can figure out what audio setup is ideal for a given pricepoint, we can peg a level of audio quality to a price.

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What is "Hi-Fi", is an eternal debate between accuracy of sound reproduction vs pleasing coloration of sound. I incline to the accuracy or transparency side. The closer and most faithful a sound reproduction is to the original source, the more Hi-Fi (or High Fidelity) it is.
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What is "Hi-Fi", is an eternal debate between accuracy of sound reproduction vs pleasing coloration of sound. I incline to the accuracy or transparency side. The closer and most faithful a sound reproduction is thje original source, the more Hi-Fi (or High Fidelity) it is.

Oh yes! That's a great point. Do you want sound that is closer to the original sound, or sound that is colored but seems to sound good? I'm not actually which side I would root for.

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What is "Hi-Fi", is an eternal debate between accuracy of sound reproduction vs pleasing coloration of sound. I incline to the accuracy or transparency side. The closer and most faithful a sound reproduction is to the original source, the more Hi-Fi (or High Fidelity) it is.

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That is why I don't consider what is offered in the market as Hi-Fi as real Hi-Fi. The most beautiful sounding setups are colored and inaccurate. But pleasing coloration is nice, indeed. But, if you have a setup with the best studio monitors possible, perfectly positioned, in a well acoustically treated room, to get the flattest and best frequency response curve and stereo imaging...that setup that would give you the most honest, faithful and accurate sound reproduction of the sound source..THAT is what I would consider real Hi-Fi.
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Then we also have to ask whether most people want "hi-fi" or colored sound. If you produce music then it makes sense to get completely flat stereo imaging, but what about as the person that enjoys the music? Do you want the colored sound that might be more pleasing or do you want source just because?

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When it comes to music listening and enjoyment, I prefer colored, pleasing sound, of course.

Right now I have a pretty accurate set, made for music production, but at the same time, I find it pretty enjoyable too. It sounds beautiful to me, for listening as well as producing. But..If I really wanted even more pleasing coloration and character out of my setup, I'd just add an equalizer and problem solved!. And maybe use other tools like a compressor to alter the dynamics of sound, saturation, etc. No need for expensive Hi-Fi setups. With an accurate flat setup, and the correct tools, you can have the best of both worlds! An even without the tools, an accurate setup would really portrait what the artist/producer intended out of the music you're listening.
Edited by Yor_ - 3/21/14 at 4:43pm
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When it comes to music listening and enjoyment, I prefer colored, pleasing sound, of course.

Right now I have a pretty accurate set, made for music production, but at the same time, I find it pretty enjoyable too. It sounds beautiful to me. But..If I really wanted even more pleasing coloration and character, I'd just add an equalizer and problem solved!. And maybe use other tools like a compressor to alter the dynamics of sound, saturation, etc. No need for expensive Hi-Fi setups. With an accurate flat setup, and the correct tools, you can have the best of both worlds!

What about the cost of a Hifi setup? Actually I recall going to an audio production forum. Over there, they refer "hifi" as colored speakers and noncolored, music production speakers as just monitors.

 

Or you can just buy monitors and upgrade along the more and more expensive monitor path.

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For example, I dream of having a Focal Twin6 Be setup and better treat my room with bass traps (bass frequencies are the most problematic). Right now I just have acoustic panels for the early, first and second reflections. High and mid frequencies are mostly covered, but the bass is what is hard to get right...

The monitors and the acoustic treatment (rooms have their own sound), as well as the quality of the source, are the most important parts of any sound setup, IMHO.
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