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he could use for gaming a fx 6300 and a sabertooth motherboard.
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thank you, you made me feel at ease even more recommending a fx 4xxx for actual real "budget builds" to others.



made me feel weird seeing

"budget build !! fx 8320, ... ... ... .. etc etc"

 

know that feel bro or sis witch ever and at stock they only ever use like 70w under gaming load well that's what the cpu says
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post #43 of 44
Price of FX-8XXX is too close to FX-6XXX. FX-6300/6350 are 95 watt chips FX-8XXX 125 watt. So plan accordingly.
For a parents/11 year old, if you have a MC nearby go Intel I5 4670/4690. Stock clocks and possible future overclock.
Inexpensive board, stock cooler until/if you overclock.
For general purpose/light gaming with a discrete video card, an Intel I3 build should do fine, and offers easy upgrade at need. The I5 3350P offers an alternative to a "K" chip, at FX-8350 pricing.
The FX-6300/6350 needs to overclock to compete with I3, and is less powerful in singe threaded operations.
My impression is the FX-6XXX ships with the solid aluminum rather than the heatpipe AMD cooler Which adds to the cost. AMD also benefits more from faster RAM.
For an enthusiast, overclocking, and enjoying messing with FX is very good.
For no hassle builds with a discrete card, go Intel
I've built I3 on H61 motherboards for friends with simple needs.
A I3 on an H81 board would work well enough with discrete card.

But, like any enthusiast, "more is better."
post #44 of 44
From my perspective:

A dual module AMD chip OCed to ~5ghz is in competition with the E3-1220 (@used pricing) / i3-4330

A triple module AMD chip OCed to ~5ghz is in competition with the E3-1230 / E3-1220V3 / i5-4440

A quad module AMD chip OCed to ~5ghz is in competition with the E3-1230V3 / i7-4770

Implementation costs vary with AMD winning some of these and Intel winning others from a value perspective. In each case there is a performance discrepancy depending on workload, again, with AMD winning some and Intel winning others. The margins are narrow enough that it doesn't matter much and you could pick based on the preference to have a "plug-n-play" system, or a system that demands going through the process of performance tuning. The novelty of performance tuning the AMD option has value for many, and the rewards are better performance in those "unusually" parallel workloads that enthusiast users are more apt to have on a regular basis. The simplicity of the Intel option has value for many as well, and for most "non-enthusiasts" the intel chips will provide better real world performance than the overclocked AMD chips.

Overclocked Intel, is in a league of it's own, both performance and price wise.


If I'm building a machine for a sibling/family, it's an intel rig with a locked chip on a B series motherboard.

If you're looking for a way to "judge" which way makes more sense, ask yourself, does your brother like to build an RC car, or just drive it? Does he play with legos, or play nintendo? Do your parents turn wrenches on their own cars, or take them to a shop? The AMD rigs make a ton of sense around here at OCN among a crowd of generally geeky tinkerers, but are not practical for most of the real world. At base clocks (not overclocked) the AMD rigs are even MORE dependent on parallel workloads to show their value. Unfortunately, this creates an inverted setup, where the non-OCed AMD rig, is often the worst value for the non-enthusiast "set-it-and-forget-it" user.


I vote:

E3-1230V3 + 260X/GTX650Ti on Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H, 2x4GB 1600MT/s 1.5V blue ripjaw, 240GB M500 SSD, 450W Capstone, CM N200. Should be about $750. Throw a GPU upgrade at it in a few years as the "demand" for an improvement there arises (if needed). Your brother will out-grow this machine about in time for college, at which point it will be retired to typewriter/internet duty for your parents.
Edited by mdocod - 3/23/14 at 1:43am
     
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FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
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Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
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Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
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yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
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A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
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Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
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LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Toshiiba THNSNH 256GB Enterprise RE3 1TB Asus BD combo drive Artic A30 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
Mouse
logitec M235 
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