Originally Posted by szeged
Even if it's 28nm I'll
They won't be 28 because they can't increase speed that much to do it. Most people see mediocre speed 28nm Maxwells now on low Watts and they think it's directly proportional to speed on high Watts. It's not. It burns the card on high Watt. It's not a matter of temperature only either.
There is a lot of talk of algorithmic and design advances but that's mostly theoretical:
Those people are brilliant designers. They ALREADY have approximately the most optimal design on 28nm before even TSMC has burned a single waffer. They can increase 5% the performance on design alone sometimes but is it worth the trouble? That's the margin of difference AMD and NV play between them because you know what? They already are optimal in designs, approximately.
They mainly rely on the manufacturer for speed gains. Not that they don't rely on their skill. But their skill is too high to be able to make huge differences on same chip burning tech.