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Hey all. Sorry if im posting in the wrong section.

Im not really well versed in tech and as such i would like to seek answer to some thoughts i have.


Is it possible for some sort of a laptop processer based concept to power future consoles?


Say, instead of the Jaguar SOC in the current PS4 you could choose to get a BGA i7 4850HQ or something, if possible and of course, SLI GTX 880Ms or 870Ms?

Laptop based mainboards take up very little space and is very compact so i dont see why it can't be done. Perhaps with the extra space given the size of a typical PS4, there could be extra space for HDDs and cooling needs, if possible.


Would this configuration equal or potentially make the jump over the current consoles?


Thanks in advance.
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The consoles use custom chips to try to balance cost, performance, heat, and power consumption. Theoretically, of course those chips you specified could run soldered together on a board with a console OS slapped on, but they'd (most likely) never use such chips. Custom chips are cheaper, and can be prioritized towards what they need.

For instance, 4-6 of those jaguar cores are most likely working on the game, while the others managing the background tasks of the OS. Consoles often also have a co-processor prioritized towards a certain task. Designing a console is much different than a PC, as all the parts are prioritized to work together towards certain tasks. a mobile i7 is powerful, but most likely would not be an efficient design for a console, as they would have to design around the CPU, instead of designing the CPU for exactly what they need(this applies to everything in the system).

hoped that helped, I know im bad at explaining things redface.gif
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Hey all. Sorry if im posting in the wrong section.

Im not really well versed in tech and as such i would like to seek answer to some thoughts i have.


Is it possible for some sort of a laptop processer based concept to power future consoles?


Say, instead of the Jaguar SOC in the current PS4 you could choose to get a BGA i7 4850HQ or something, if possible and of course, SLI GTX 880Ms or 870Ms?

Laptop based mainboards take up very little space and is very compact so i dont see why it can't be done. Perhaps with the extra space given the size of a typical PS4, there could be extra space for HDDs and cooling needs, if possible.


Would this configuration equal or potentially make the jump over the current consoles?


Thanks in advance.

I don't get it. Consoles are not about physical space.

Consoles are computers that have standardized parts running custom OS.... that's all.

It doesn't matter what you build.... if it cannot get the custom OS running and there are hardware difference that causes incompatibilities, then it doesn't matter what you do because it won't work.
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Not possible…. ever….
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Originally Posted by LordOfTots View Post

The consoles use custom chips to try to balance cost, performance, heat, and power consumption. Theoretically, of course those chips you specified could run soldered together on a board with a console OS slapped on, but they'd (most likely) never use such chips. Custom chips are cheaper, and can be prioritized towards what they need.

For instance, 4-6 of those jaguar cores are most likely working on the game, while the others managing the background tasks of the OS. Consoles often also have a co-processor prioritized towards a certain task. Designing a console is much different than a PC, as all the parts are prioritized to work together towards certain tasks. a mobile i7 is powerful, but most likely would not be an efficient design for a console, as they would have to design around the CPU, instead of designing the CPU for exactly what they need(this applies to everything in the system).

hoped that helped, I know im bad at explaining things redface.gif

I remember the PS4 had an ARM co processer, is that what you're referring to?
Well, the reason why i came up with such an idea, was to get an even more portable console that could be plugged in anytime, anywhere while still being powerful enough to render games at 1080p. Kind of like the laptop vs the desktop pros and cons i was thinking of.As for the GPU, if i recall, the PS4 uses a cut down 7870 IGPU if im not wrong. Not sure if an 870 or 880m could be possible as a console GPU?
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I don't get it. Consoles are not about physical space.

Consoles are computers that have standardized parts running custom OS.... that's all.

It doesn't matter what you build.... if it cannot get the custom OS running and there are hardware difference that causes incompatibilities, then it doesn't matter what you do because it won't work.

Hm? isn't it about physical space as compared to a full tower desktop gaming, hence why they exploded on the scene in the first place? Im not very sure about these kinds of matters.

As to hardware differences, couldnt they develop the OS to the needs of the chip and the GPU?
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Hm? isn't it about physical space as compared to a full tower desktop gaming, hence why they exploded on the scene in the first place? Im not very sure about these kinds of matters.

As to hardware differences, couldnt they develop the OS to the needs of the chip and the GPU?

No, consoles are appliances.... think about what that means.


The console developers do not want their OS running on anything else and actively block it from doing so.
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