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What would force me to get DDR4? one word



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AM3 CPUs made it really easy to hang onto the same DDR2-800CL4/DDR2-1066CL5 that worked on my AM2/+ boards for a while. It wasn't until the older boards and memory hit a certain worse price/performance value that it became worth it to upgrade to DDR3. Rumor is that there might be such hybrid chips again on FM2+.
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Originally Posted by Zero4549 View Post

Why would I build a new computer with outdated memory (and thus outdated cpu and mobo)?

I ask that question every time I see a SB / IB build w/ GTX 670s here on the forum:).

Usual answers are .....

-It's cheaper ..... to my mind, sacrificing a few $ for a year of viability isn't worth it
-SB / IB is a better overclocker....... a 6% OC advantage doesn't offset the 10% advantage at stock of the newer CPU.
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I would need to see higher density at same or higher speeds at a lower price however I don't expect that to be the case at launch...I think I'll have to wait a year or two for that to happen tongue.gif
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I would need to see higher density at same or higher speeds at a lower price however I don't expect that to be the case at launch...I think I'll have to wait a year or two for that to happen tongue.gif

What do you think a rough estimate will be for the cost of upgrading when it comes to replacing the motherboard, perhaps needing to get a new CPU, and 16GB of DDR4 RAM itself? I am thinking that when the new RAM gets here, 16GB will be the new standard amount to have. I think too that the new motherboards will be in the $200+ range for the bare bones ones. I do not know if current CPUs can adequately handle DDR4 fully either. If they were to keep the same 240 pin form factor do you think they could possibly achieve 2400+ MHz with the new type?

On a side note, I want to get into folding and be a part of the OCN team but it seems like the teams are for people who really get into it and have thousands of hours in it already.
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What do you think a rough estimate will be for the cost of upgrading when it comes to replacing the motherboard, perhaps needing to get a new CPU, and 16GB of DDR4 RAM itself? I am thinking that when the new RAM gets here, 16GB will be the new standard amount to have. I think too that the new motherboards will be in the $200+ range for the bare bones ones. I do not know if current CPUs can adequately handle DDR4 fully either. If they were to keep the same 240 pin form factor do you think they could possibly achieve 2400+ MHz with the new type?

On a side note, I want to get into folding and be a part of the OCN team but it seems like the teams are for people who really get into it and have thousands of hours in it already.

I think, like with any new technology, that the cost to upgrade will be overly high for early adopters. Give it 6-12 months and I expect prices will level out to about where they are now - maybe slightly higher since it's a more complex technology. I agree that 16gb will be the new standard and I expect speeds will be roughly the same to slightly higher than they are now at launch but DDR4 is capable of much faster transfer rates, lower operating voltage, and significantly higher density so I think it will be a necessary upgrade eventually.

As for folding, anyone can contribute to the OCN team. The team competition is for people who are really dedicated (20-24 hours per day) but that's not a realistic expectation for many people. PM me and I would be happy to answer your questions and get you setup if you are interested thumb.gif
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I think, like with any new technology, that the cost to upgrade will be overly high for early adopters. Give it 6-12 months and I expect prices will level out to about where they are now - maybe slightly higher since it's a more complex technology. I agree that 16gb will be the new standard and I expect speeds will be roughly the same to slightly higher than they are now at launch but DDR4 is capable of much faster transfer rates, lower operating voltage, and significantly higher density so I think it will be a necessary upgrade eventually.

As for folding, anyone can contribute to the OCN team. The team competition is for people who are really dedicated (20-24 hours per day) but that's not a realistic expectation for many people. PM me and I would be happy to answer your questions and get you setup if you are interested thumb.gif
I honestly don't know how 4K and this new stuff is turning a profit. ddr4 will be very expensive as well. nobody I know and nobody they know is getting 4K until it is about half the price. so how will this new tech make money then I wonder... everyone knows if you wait it will be cheaper. same with ddr4. however I heard about a factory fire so the price might be high for a while.
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lol. like 5 gtx 780s on the same slot?

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lol. like 5 gtx 780s on the same slot?

beast mode [on] off

band width is where its at. I noticed everyone has their own upgrade rythem, some are cpu sockets, some are Ram, some are pci-e versions, the pci-e versions are slower cycles so a little nicer to my wallet
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