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I received Z77 Sabertooth a year ago with a bent pin, which I fixed, but then it broke off... I tried to get a replacement, but it came with a half-broken pin too! NewEgg no longer offers retail Z77 Sabertooth - only Open Box...

All I need is to OC my 3770K to 4.5Ghz using 1.75v, which was real easy on Z77 Sabertooh. If I go for another Z77 motherboard, like ASUS P8Z77-V PRO, is there a good chance my OC will stay just as good/bad? I use simply air cooling - CM Hyper 212 EVO.

Are there any other motherboards you would recommend? I wonder if ASUS boards have more broken pins than ASRock boards...
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I received Z77 Sabertooth a year ago with a bent pin, which I fixed, but then it broke off... I tried to get a replacement, but it came with a half-broken pin too! NewEgg no longer offers retail Z77 Sabertooth - only Open Box...

All I need is to OC my 3770K to 4.5Ghz using 1.75v, which was real easy on Z77 Sabertooh. If I go for another Z77 motherboard, like ASUS P8Z77-V PRO, is there a good chance my OC will stay just as good/bad? I use simply air cooling - CM Hyper 212 EVO.

Are there any other motherboards you would recommend? I wonder if ASUS boards have more broken pins than ASRock boards...

 

4.5 GHz should be easy to achieve with the P8Z77-V Pro. Higher-end boards are really for higher overclocking. In the Sabertooth, you had overkill. You weren't using it to its fullest potential at all. You won't be using the P8Z77-V Pro to its fullest potential either, but at least it will be cheaper than something like the Sabertooth.

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If I was you I would go with an asrock Extreme6. I am able to do a 4.5ghz over clock easily at that voltage. I have the extreme6 paired with an i7 3770k. You can get this board for a little over 100 USD from new egg.
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I received Z77 Sabertooth a year ago with a bent pin, which I fixed, but then it broke off... I tried to get a replacement, but it came with a half-broken pin too! NewEgg no longer offers retail Z77 Sabertooth - only Open Box...

All I need is to OC my 3770K to 4.5Ghz using 1.75v, which was real easy on Z77 Sabertooh. If I go for another Z77 motherboard, like ASUS P8Z77-V PRO, is there a good chance my OC will stay just as good/bad? I use simply air cooling - CM Hyper 212 EVO.

Are there any other motherboards you would recommend? I wonder if ASUS boards have more broken pins than ASRock boards...

 

Oh wait, I forgot to ask: did you mean 1.175V or 1.275V?

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1.275v, but it never goes above 85C and super-stable for 2 years now!
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If I was you I would go with an asrock Extreme6. I am able to do a 4.5ghz over clock easily at that voltage. I have the extreme6 paired with an i7 3770k. You can get this board for a little over 100 USD from new egg.

Why ASRock? Just because it is cheaper? I would go for whichever one is less likely to have bent pins, but it seems like both ASUS and ASRock are bad at that!
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Considering that P8Z77-V Pro has better VRM than Sabertooth I don't see how it will OC worse. It's heck of a deal at current prices.
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Really? Why would they put worse hardware in Sabertooth then?

Does ASRock support UEFI/BIOS Flashback feature?
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Really? Why would they put worse hardware in Sabertooth then?

Does ASRock support UEFI/BIOS Flashback feature?
Because the standards required to meet some of their specs cost money and they would rather invest the money in marketing than a better VRm which 90% of buyers wont look at, in general companies would rather invest in something they could advertise like military specs which don't have much bearing on performance.

To answer your question, after the release of sandy bridge, most every board over $120 for the P67, Z68, Z77, and Z87 platforms OC the CPu about the same. The only exception is the X79 series of boards, in which there are noticeable differences among brands.

However what is left is memory overclocking and BCLK OC which is needed to get higher memory frequencies, these do differ a lot among boards and the OC boards bring better performance.
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My answer to "why would they do that" is always the same: to make more money.

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