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Soooo much this. Very boring.
LoL! Glad we can agree on something. I miss going through different drivers and editing my windows registry thinking I'll gain a cpl of frames and actually make a big enough difference in fps. What a weird feeling. I can't really describe it. Can you?
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post #292 of 1081
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LoL! Glad we can agree on something. I miss going through different drivers and editing my windows registry thinking I'll gain a cpl of frames and actually make a big enough difference in fps. What a weird feeling. I can't really describe it. Can you?

lol. Yeah, it was gratifying. Not necessarily being able to buy higher end hardware and having to tweak it to get the performance you wanted, or well, good enough to play.

Like you said, hard to describe. Just incredibly reminiscent and gratifying
 
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I ran Crysis 3 last night at 2560x1600, maxed out with 8x MSAA. My VRAM ranged from 2980GB - 3017GB. Still gave me a very playable frame rate at 45fps. If I tried these same settings at 4K I'm sure the game wouldn't even run. Yes I know you wouldn't need 8x MSAA at 4K, I am just saying. 6GB would pretty much free your mind of any concerns. It was one of the reasons I hesitated to sell my Titan and move to the 780tis. Loved having all of that head room for my different setups.
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I ran Crysis 3 last night at 2560x1600, maxed out with 8x MSAA. My VRAM ranged from 2980GB - 3017GB. Still gave me a very playable frame rate at 45fps. If I tried these same settings at 4K I'm sure the game wouldn't even run. Yes I know you wouldn't need 8x MSAA at 4K, I am just saying. 6GB would pretty much free your mind of any concerns. It was one of the reasons I hesitated to sell my Titan and move to the 780tis. Loved having all of that head room for my different setups.

Or, alternatively, you could use 2X MSAA or FXAA and lower your VRAM use by 1-1.5GB. Anti aliasing takes up more VRAM than game assets in current games. Personally, i've always felt 8X MSAA was a stupid setting especially considering the outrageous performance hit. But everyone has their preference.

I just think it's funny that people are surprised when VRAM use is high with outrageous anti aliasing settings. Or resolution scaling (same as OGSSAA). SSAA takes up a ton of VRAM. So does 8X MSAA. And the performance hit for both of those are stupid, with SSAA being even more stupid. But like I said, everyone has their preference, whatever. I've gamed at 1600p for some time and even with sli 680s, VRAM was a non issue. I've never been one to go nuts with 8X MSAA or anything like that, though, i'd rather just run 2X MSAA for 30% more performance (compared to 8X MSAA). Or FXAA which doesn't even use VRAM, and looks good with no performance hit.

If you use 200% resolution scale in BF4? You're basically running 4k resolution downsampled with OGSSAA. Yeah VRAM use is going to be high. Welcome to the drawback of anti aliasing, especially with 8X MSAA or SSAA. Tons of VRAM use for no real good reason, and a huge performance hit on top of that. I just don't get why people go for those settings when 2X MSAA looks 99% as good as 8X without the performance or VRAM hit.
Edited by xoleras - 3/24/14 at 6:11am
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Have to buy a new gpu, can't not use 8x msaa! $700 vs free, makes sense.
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It isn't just VRAM use. It's the performance hit for 8X vs 2X for me. I'd rather use 2X for way more performance and 99% of the visuals. Like I said though, it's all in the eye of the beholder. I won't say either way is right or wrong, everyone has their preference. That's the beauty of PC gaming. Take your pick on what you like for image quality. thumb.gif Oh yeah. I can't notice a difference between 2X MSAA and 8X MSAA. So then the question becomes, why am I using 8X MSAA on a 1600p IPS panel when it looks identical to 2X MSAA? Am I using it just because? For psychological benefits? And why am I taking a 30% performance hit for 8X when it looks identical? Just my line of thinking. But, It's all personal preference. Take your pick between performance hit and VRAM use.

I should clarify. I used 680 sli for ages at 1600p and even 8X MSAA was a non issue aside from te performance hit. Never had VRAM problems except at triple 1600p. At 7680*1600, yes, you want 6GB. Or 4k resolution? 6GB can make sense since you can use more AA with 6GB. 5760*1080 was fine even with 2GB, although you can't go overboard with SSAA there with 2-3GB.

But the bottom line is this. Anti aliasing is the biggest thing chewing up VRAM, so if you're using surround, more VRAM lets you use more anti aliasing, essentially. Does that matter to you? It's up to the buyer to decide really. Personally i'm good with 3GB because I don't go for 8X MSAA or 8X SGSSAA. Mainly because the performance hit for those settings is retarded when you consider 2X MSAA looks 99.9% as good as 8X. Even 3GB is fine at 4k resolution unless you use too much AA. If you use 8X SSAA in everything? Yeah, then 6GB makes sense. I DUNNO ABOUT THE 90% performance hit for 8X SSAA though. Or the 30-40% hit for 8X MSAA. You could of course throw more GPUs at the problem just so you can use more AA, and then get 6GB on top of that.
Edited by xoleras - 3/24/14 at 6:26am
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We will have a few different models of 780 with 6GB, and Ti is being worked on smile.gif

I bought a 780 TI late december, and totally forgot to register the card.

Am i SOL on the warranty?

Sorry, first time buying EVGA and i didnt even realize this was necessary
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Ah I see. So I can do EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti Superclocked → EVGA 780ti 6GB = ?

No. Evgas step up policy states it must be a gpu upgrade. Vram upgrades are not available for step up. People should read their terms before getting excited.
http://www.evga.com/support/stepup/
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I bought a 780 TI late december, and totally forgot to register the card.

Am i SOL on the warranty?

Sorry, first time buying EVGA and i didnt even realize this was necessary

No, you still get warranty for 3 years from when it was shipped to the reseller you bought it from. So it would be just 1-2 months you lost thumb.gif
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Or, alternatively, you could use 2X MSAA or FXAA and lower your VRAM use by 1-1.5GB. Anti aliasing takes up more VRAM than game assets in current games. Personally, i've always felt 8X MSAA was a stupid setting especially considering the outrageous performance hit. But everyone has their preference.

I just think it's funny that people are surprised when VRAM use is high with outrageous anti aliasing settings. Or resolution scaling (same as OGSSAA). SSAA takes up a ton of VRAM. So does 8X MSAA. And the performance hit for both of those are stupid, with SSAA being even more stupid. But like I said, everyone has their preference, whatever. I've gamed at 1600p for some time and even with sli 680s, VRAM was a non issue. I've never been one to go nuts with 8X MSAA or anything like that, though, i'd rather just run 2X MSAA for 30% more performance (compared to 8X MSAA). Or FXAA which doesn't even use VRAM, and looks good with no performance hit.

If you use 200% resolution scale in BF4? You're basically running 4k resolution downsampled with OGSSAA. Yeah VRAM use is going to be high. Welcome to the drawback of anti aliasing, especially with 8X MSAA or SSAA. Tons of VRAM use for no real good reason, and a huge performance hit on top of that. I just don't get why people go for those settings when 2X MSAA looks 99% as good as 8X without the performance or VRAM hit.


I'm well aware of what I could do to reduce vram usage. I probably wouldn't use 8x in day to day gaming. That's not the point. Whether you consider it ridiculous or not, there is a setting in the game for that amount of AA. If you spend $1200+ on GPUs you most likely want to push the limits of your machine or software. Or is buying multiple GPUs ridiculous as well? It could be to some and that's fine.
Edited by dboythagr8 - 3/24/14 at 7:12am
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