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Need Cooling advice for new Rig FX-9590 // 2x r9 290x // Fatal1ty 20990FX mobo

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
Hai
need cooling advice
I tried asking people i know in real life, but cannot come to consensus over the rig.
I have theoretical knowledge of how to build custom water loops - this will be my first application of such
so i need advice over setup/components/case/power

First of all, i will need help with the loops themselves
I do not know what i need to cool both my GPS and a CPU. As all three processing units are AMD, water is pretty much the only option.
Over loops i had varied advice, raging from single huge loop to 3loops to 1 and a half loop (2 water tanks, 2 pumps but only 1 radiator for both)
I need to know what is optima, what will work best.
And for such a loop what kind of setup will I need, components wise (heat syncs are obvious ones, but its radiators, tanks and pumps that are breaking me)
After that, What kind of case would hold it all together? Like being a total noob, so far i only had an eye on Corsair 900D, but do not know what is actually any good for this
Last specific question is Power. I have no idea how much power water cooling takes. At the moment i am looking at modular 750W supply, but do not know if that will be appropriate to power all of this + 4 hard drives.
And just as a foot note, I am doing this in UK, so some USA manufactures might not have suppliers here and so on. As well as that, anything with water cooling must have/must avoid and general tips will be welcome as well
Thank you for reading
Looking forward to processing your answers!
post #2 of 10
Im also watercooling my fx-9590 (still busy assembling) and the vrm as well as the nb ---> pump/res combo - cpu - vrm - nb - rad.

Im using a 480 rad and the fx-9590 need atleast a 240 rad i would sugest a dual loop one 240rad for the fx-9590 and for the two r9-290 which have a combined tdp of arround 2 x 300watt tdp and the cpu alone has a 220watt tdp. Also as some people had some issues with the VRM getting hot with the fx-9590 atleast use dedicated fans above the vrm section of your mother board or even watercooling it.

My 2 cents:

A good watercooling store (they dont sell Bitspower fittings) which ive ordered many times at that place is:

http://www.aquatuning.co.uk/

2 seperate loops:

fx-9590 - 240 rad
two R9-290x - a good 360 or even a 480 rad.

in case you want to cool the cpu and the vrm as well as the nb then i suggest a 480rad

In that case:

cpu + vrm + nb = 480rad.
2 x gpu = a good 360rad or but im leaning towards a 480rad, if you prefer sillence...

About the psu from what i hear atleast a 850watt psu with one dedicated gpu since you are using not only a fx-9590 but also two heavy hitters like the R9-290x from my understanding have a look at atleast 1200watt (or even more) psu but i believe there are people who actually can give you a better advise regarding the psu.

About the cooling gear:

If you want a sillent and powerful pump go with a Aquastream XT which is powerful as a d5 on level 4 or a D5 with top/res combo.

For the FX-9590 i would go with a Koolance CPU-380A very good block and not restrictive.

For the rads well it depends but from my own experience ive used XSPC RX480 rad as well as a
Alphacool NexXxoS Monsta 360 or 480 (you could also opt for a 60mm variant of alphacool) and they both perform great.

Gpu blocks ive only had experience with koolance gpu blocks have a look at these:
http://koolance.com/video-card-vga-amd-radeon-r9-290x-water-block-vid-ar290x

But thats about personal preference some would opt for EK or other brands...

IF you want to cool the VRM and the NB...dont know if your motherboard has a full cover block if not then i suggest using universal waterblocks from koolance there are a couple of people using them on the Asus sabertooth 990fx R2.0 as shown here to give you an idea:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1468642/how-to-watercool-the-asus-990fx-sabertooth-rev2-0-vrms-and-nb

and

http://www.overclock.net/t/1035333/official-asus-sabertooth-amd-owners-club/2270#post_17155237

Looking at what your planning to cool and the impact of the FX-9590 on the vrm as stated by those using that cpu specialy in heavy cpu loads its wise to watercool those vrm and nb as well.

The corsair 900D has plenty space for two rads ie a 480rad below and a 360 rad on top.
But i have no idea if it can accomidate two pumps etc...

But i found this thread might be usefull to you:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1385151/sulfatron-900d-bitspower-deep-blood-red-ek-zmt-tubing

OR save your self the money and only watercool the cpu - vrm and nb the gpu's using their default air cooling in a case with good air flow cooling. All in all the costs for this huge setup is big if your planning a full loop...its up to you.

Hope this helps.
Edited by Cobra26 - 3/22/14 at 9:43pm
post #3 of 10
You're building one of the hottest rigs ever. Lol. As much rad as you can afford. I would think you would need 1000 watt psu as your cpu is power hungry and the cards are as well.
post #4 of 10
Thread Starter 
Ok, just to double check quickly i need a Pair of pump/reservoirs, 1/4 inch tubing and tube cutters, 2 GPU water blocks, 1 CPU block, 1 mobo block specific to board, 2xcompression fittings per non-tubing component, 2 480 radiators, 8 fans, coolant and thermal paste.
anything i missed out on?
post #5 of 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrMetal View Post

Ok, just to double check quickly i need a Pair of pump/reservoirs, 1/4 inch tubing and tube cutters, 2 GPU water blocks, 1 CPU block, 1 mobo block specific to board, 2xcompression fittings per non-tubing component, 2 480 radiators, 8 fans, coolant and thermal paste.
anything i missed out on?

Yeah basically thats it maybe the motherboard block can cause a issue since i do not know if there is a full cover block for your mb if NOT then like i suggested you need universal waterblocks for example a VRM waterblock and North bridge waterblock this will be cooled by a 480rad cpu included the two gpu's are cooled by yet another 480 rad.

My suggestion still stands only watercool the cpu - vrm - NB and let the gpu's use their default air cooling in a proper case this shouldnt be a problem and it will save you allot of money.
I would check reviews on which 290X gpu has the best cooling solution.
Its hard because not many people have the FX-9590 thats why not many reply but from my understanding when the cpu is at heavy loads it has a great impact on the VRM's of the MB almost at the brink of overheating hence you see people using fans on top of their vrm's section on either a fx-9590 based system or a heavily overclocked fx-8350 (4.8 - 5ghz) or higher) system. But there are others who had no issues yet with leaving the vrm with their stock heat sinks.
Edited by Cobra26 - 3/26/14 at 1:41am
post #6 of 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrMetal View Post

Ok, just to double check quickly i need a Pair of pump/reservoirs, 1/4 inch tubing and tube cutters, 2 GPU water blocks, 1 CPU block, 1 mobo block specific to board, 2xcompression fittings per non-tubing component, 2 480 radiators, 8 fans, coolant and thermal paste.
anything i missed out on?

You don't need to use quarter inch tubing there is a lot of different stuff out there. Some people like thin tubing some think fatter tubing is better. I just installed 3/8 acrylic tubing and I love the look but wish I went with the 1/2 personally I feel like it would have looked better.

I would have to agree if money is an issue I would cool the vrm and nb before the gpus with that chip. If money isn't an issue cool everything
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post #7 of 10
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Originally Posted by jthm4goth View Post

You don't need to use quarter inch tubing there is a lot of different stuff out there. Some people like thin tubing some think fatter tubing is better. I just installed 3/8 acrylic tubing and I love the look but wish I went with the 1/2 personally I feel like it would have looked better.

I would have to agree if money is an issue I would cool the vrm and nb before the gpus with that chip. If money isn't an issue cool everything
BUt from jsut looking at components most are at 1/4 sockets fro tubing/fittings, so how getting 1/2 or anything else will work out?

Also, occured to me, setting up looop itself, will it be :
reservoir/Pump --> CPU --> VRM --> NB --> Radiator --> back to reservoir/pump
or will it be
reservoir/Pump --> Radiator --> CPU --> VRM --> NB --> back to reservoir/pump
post #8 of 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrMetal View Post

BUt from jsut looking at components most are at 1/4 sockets fro tubing/fittings, so how getting 1/2 or anything else will work out?

Also, occured to me, setting up looop itself, will it be :
reservoir/Pump --> CPU --> VRM --> NB --> Radiator --> back to reservoir/pump
or will it be
reservoir/Pump --> Radiator --> CPU --> VRM --> NB --> back to reservoir/pump

You can get hosing in tons of sizes what I think your looking at is the g1/4 which is the size and pattern of the threads not the hose size it uses
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post #9 of 10
I have just finished my loop with a 3930K and 2x 290X's in the loop I have a 360 and a 240 Rad in the loop the temps under heavy load for the GPU have not gone above 53c on the GPU and 46c on the CPU.

Setup is Res/Pump --> CPU --> 240 Rad --> GPU's --> 360 Rad --> back to Res/Pump

In terms of Overclocks the CPU is 4.4GHz hopefully this gives you some idea of what to expect smile.gif
post #10 of 10
For that pc you will need a 850-900w psu minimum
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