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Yeah, I'd never trust someone who claim never to have caught something nasty, especially for more than a few years.
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Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post

I don't give the north end of a southbound furry little rodent how safely you surf. Even legitimate sites can (and do) get infected. Just being connected to the internet subjects you to infections, even if your browser isn't open.

I would agree with this. Ive had it happen. There are so many good quality/low resource overhead/free for personal use AV's out there its really kind of just laziness not to utilize one. The second you think your smarter than these clowns out there writing this malicious code, theyve got you.
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Yeah, I'd never trust someone who claim never to have caught something nasty, especially for more than a few years.

Again not everyone is hitting up Facebook, Twitter or backyardsluts.com wink.gif

I use very simple Unix/Linux systems as my main OS. I only use Windows for playing Games. smile.gif

This isn't the age of direct connected systems to the Internet. If your PC is directly connected to the Internet without a NAT or Firewall, you are insane.
    
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I use very simple Unix/Linux systems as my main OS.

Well that changes everything...
I'd say that for even the best software engeneer around the chances of never getting infected are quite small, it's not just a question of how competent you are.
post #45 of 69
Even any website with third party hosted ads, such as google ads, is a portal for undetectable drive by malware.
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Again not everyone is hitting up Facebook, Twitter or backyardsluts.com wink.gif

I use very simple Unix/Linux systems as my main OS. I only use Windows for playing Games. smile.gif

This isn't the age of direct connected systems to the Internet. If your PC is directly connected to the Internet without a NAT or Firewall, you are insane.

Unix/Linux systems are safer only because so few people use them compared to Windows systems, it's not worth the hackers time to write and distribute malware. Look at Macs. They used to get few infections because so few people used them but, as more and more people are turning to Macs, more and more malware is being written for them. But even if you use Windows only for playing games, when Windows is running, if it is connected to the internet, infections can get through. Firewalls have to open a portal to allow a transmission; while that portal is open, almost anything can slip through. I don't see how you think NAT will protect you other than, maybe to block certain websites (and that isn't much protection)..
     
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Unix/Linux systems are safer only because so few people use them compared to Windows systems, it's not worth the hackers time to write and distribute malware. Look at Macs. They used to get few infections because so few people used them but, as more and more people are turning to Macs, more and more malware is being written for them..

This is only partially correct. Linux and other Unix-like systems are more secure by design. They enforce strict permissions and users are only allowed what is given to them. There are some other reasons I'm not entirely familiar with; hopefully someone more knowledgeable can elaborate on this.

Macs are becoming more vulnerable mostly because they now run more Microsoft software. MS Office, Internet Explorer, and Windows are targets, generally not OS X.
post #48 of 69
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Yeah, I'd never trust someone who claim never to have caught something nasty, especially for more than a few years.

I can remember exactly one time I infected my PC. I was running Windows at the time, and immediately before executing the file myself I thought "Man, this is probably a virus...". It was a trojan actually. That was... maybe 4 years ago? It is possible to not get infections though.

Regular malware scans, active malware monitoring, safe browsing habits, security browser plugins, and some kind of firewall will help with stopping Windows infections. Installing a proper OS without MS Office and Internet Exploder will stop most of the rest.
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I use Microsoft Security Essentials (free) and Malwarebytes Pro ($25 for lifetime license) and have never had any issues with viruses/malware/spyware. There's also a free version of Malwarebytes that would be worth looking into if you do not want to spend any money.

Its only for a year if you purchase now frown.gif I wish I purchased a license before this change..
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For those using MS Essentials, didnt MS themselves tell everyone to get another AV?


Edit: Appears MS said something different. anyway, heres one read if anyone cares. http://www.howtogeek.com/173291/goodbye-microsoft-security-essentials-microsoft-now-recommends-you-use-a-third-party-antivirus/
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