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One good thing about getting a 770 now is this: you won't have to do it later.

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Try to wrestle that CPU stable at 3.4-3.6GHz. Honestly, at that point, you'd be fine even with a GTX770.

It used to go stable but that was when I have only 4GB ram. I am not sure if it is the CPU or the moptherboard, but when I go at 3.4 now, it really rarely gives errors but when I play games it just crashes. if though 3.4/3.6 is good for 770, does that mean 3.2 is good for 760? tongue.gif
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One good thing about getting a 770 now is this: you won't have to do it later.

We are talking about computers here. There has been no later for a long long time now. When the "time" that I will upgrade will come, GTX 770 will probably be much cheaper, to the point that it might even be the difference of money between 770 today and 760 (or 750 ti >.>). Hmm I jsut confused myself. Anyway, after many years I realized that getting something good lasts you for many years, but upgrading one of the parts with the best you can for futureproof, is "fail". In a new PC, the old part will always be the "old and mediocre" part that qualifies to stay in the pc for a bit before being replaced.
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Try to wrestle that CPU stable at 3.4-3.6GHz. Honestly, at that point, you'd be fine even with a GTX770.

It used to go stable but that was when I have only 4GB ram. I am not sure if it is the CPU or the moptherboard, but when I go at 3.4 now, it really rarely gives errors but when I play games it just crashes. if though 3.4/3.6 is good for 770, does that mean 3.2 is good for 760? tongue.gif

Look up guides on how to overclock that system then. Set your RAM to 1:1 and loosen up your timings, increase voltage to like 2v (on the RAM). It's definitely the RAM / memory controller (motherboard) that's probably causing that problem. However doing some tweaking, I'm sure you could do it. Those Corsair Value DDR2 sticks should be capable of DDR2-1000 at 6-6-6-18. Most are, which that would give you 500FSB (8x multi), which comes out to 4GHz. Assuming your components can do it. 450 FSB would be 3.6GHz with DDR2-900 and that should be pretty easy to tweak stable really.

Just need to put some effort into your overclock mate. thumb.gif

You'd be fine with a GTX770, even at 3.2GHz honestly. You'll just be holding it back some in CPU intensive titles. So yes a GTX 760 would be fine as well.
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I agree, if you overclock some you will be ok. 770 is a great card. The 760 is a really good card for the price point. But no reason you couyldnt get what you want and run the 770.
   
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Look up guides on how to overclock that system then. Set your RAM to 1:1 and loosen up your timings, increase voltage to like 2v (on the RAM). It's definitely the RAM / memory controller (motherboard) that's probably causing that problem. However doing some tweaking, I'm sure you could do it. Those Corsair Value DDR2 sticks should be capable of DDR2-1000 at 6-6-6-18. Most are, which that would give you 500FSB (8x multi), which comes out to 4GHz. Assuming your components can do it. 450 FSB would be 3.6GHz with DDR2-900 and that should be pretty easy to tweak stable really.

Just need to put some effort into your overclock mate. thumb.gif

You'd be fine with a GTX770, even at 3.2GHz honestly. You'll just be holding it back some in CPU intensive titles. So yes a GTX 760 would be fine as well.

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I agree, if you overclock some you will be ok. 770 is a great card. The 760 is a really good card for the price point. But no reason you couyldnt get what you want and run the 770.

I have tried many many times and for long hours to overclock over 3.2. 420FSB is manageable nowadays for me, with a couple of problems is stress tests. But when I go for 440+ my computer will not start at all. It is just blackscreen and I have to hit reset so it will restart and I can go back in the bios to readjust stuff. I always imagined it was the motherboard. Still it could be one of the many voltages that I looked about nad changed and altered and never got any result. CPU PLL, FSB Termination, NB and SB and Clock Over-Charging voltages are all things I do not really get. Well I do get the FSB Termination, NB and SB ones, but I do not know much about where to put what. But I have tried many combinations, mostly because "auto" is a word I never, ever trusted. Still be it because I lack skill and patience or because my MB is not up to it, I have never managed the usual 3.6 PC that my CPU seems that can get.
    
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Even an i5 750 at 3.8-4 has issues with current games and it's much faster than any 775 quad core. The minimum framerate is going to be lower than even AMD cpus, even in games like Crysis 2/3 which really stress the GPU as well. Any console port(most multiplat games now) will be a disappointment, as will strategy/sim games which rely on IPC.

If you can't upgrade anytime soon, get the 760 or a used 660(plain or Ti), GTX 5x0 and save up for an upgrade ASAP. Your CPU is probably comparable to a Phenom II/ at this point and those really don't get the job done anymore.
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750Ti is awesome. I actually want one, but it'd be a "side"grade from what I've got. They overclock really high really easily too.

750ti also will not need an additional cable from the PSU as it draws all of it's power from the m/b
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Even an i5 750 at 3.8-4 has issues with current games and it's much faster than any 775 quad core. The minimum framerate is going to be lower than even AMD cpus, even in games like Crysis 2/3 which really stress the GPU as well. Any console port(most multiplat games now) will be a disappointment, as will strategy/sim games which rely on IPC.

If you can't upgrade anytime soon, get the 760 or a used 660(plain or Ti), GTX 5x0 and save up for an upgrade ASAP. Your CPU is probably comparable to a Phenom II/ at this point and those really don't get the job done anymore.

I can't upgrade to a full pc, because I am lacking the "green" needed. This is the only reason I am looking away from 770. 760 being the best solution but if it is too much for my 3.2 q9400, I will just go for 750 ti. My resolution will always be 1960 x 1080 at most. But if my CPU can't handle the framerate then I guess I will go for 750ti.
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750ti also will not need an additional cable from the PSU as it draws all of it's power from the m/b

The GTX 750 ti I have in mind needs a 6pin cable.
    
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I don't think all brands have the 6-pin. Which is why a lot of miners will get 7 or more in a system. They don't waste the extra money on the ti version but what I looked at on the EVGA site their cards don't have the 6-pin
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I don't think all brands have the 6-pin. Which is why a lot of miners will get 7 or more in a system. They don't waste the extra money on the ti version but what I looked at on the EVGA site their cards don't have the 6-pin



If you take a look on this picture you will see that this EVGA GTX 750 ti, does need a 6pin connector.
    
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