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Doesn't that kind of make my point?

So you're saying that because AMD is working with ARM, you won't buy AMD?
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So you're saying that because AMD is working with ARM, you won't buy AMD?

No, I'm saying that AMD recognizes that their x86 server chips can't match the 64bit ARM in performance per watt and that is why they are using ARM in their new server stuff.
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No, I'm saying that AMD recognizes that their x86 server chips can't match the 64bit ARM in performance per watt and that is why they are using ARM in their new server stuff.

AMD has a chance to have a very high market share in the ARM server space. That is why they are doing it, it appears to be the next high growth market. They are also going to be releasing servers that have x86 cores and ARM cores for companies that still need x86 for legacy software. It also helps that they now own SeaMicro. I do hope they make a proper return to the x86 market at one point though with competitive products.
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AMD has a chance to have a very high market share in the ARM server space. That is why they are doing it, it appears to be the next high growth market. They are also going to be releasing servers that have x86 cores and ARM cores for companies that still need x86 for legacy software. It also helps that they now own SeaMicro. I do hope they make a proper return to the x86 market at one point though with competitive products.

Yeah for sure, I don't mean to sound like I'm hating on AMD, it's just hard to see how the markets will go at this point and AMD is caught in the middle.
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I just built an HTPC with an AMD APU A6 at the heart, my dad got a laptop with an A8. Sure my desktop is Intel, but that's the only type of PC I would consider Intel for.
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AMD should just abandon their big chips after Excavator and focus on Puma and its successors
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I just built an HTPC with an AMD PSU A6 at the heart, my dad got a laptop with an A8. Sure my desktop is Intel, but that's the only type of PC I would consider Intel for.

You know if kevari laptops are coming?
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AMD should just abandon their big chips after Excavator and focus on Puma and its successors


We know nothing of Excavator to even make that sort of declaration yet.

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You know if kevari laptops are coming?

They're coming, it's called Kaveri 2.0
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We know nothing of Excavator to even make that sort of declaration yet.

If Excavator is some sort of miracle that crushes Intel and wins back tons of marketshare for AMD on mobile, desktop, and workstation markets then it would be reasonable to keep making big chips. But so far Bulldozer family has been a failure and each iteration only offered marginal improvement. Even Steamroller, which had higher IPC, only had marginally higher performance because of lower clocks. Judging from the trend since C2D AMD has barely been competing against Intel on the big chip front.

And worst of all, Baytrail is proving to have equal or better CPU performance than Jaguar at a lower TDP, and clearly it's much more popular with OEMs. And Intel wants to put their Atom architectures on the Tick-Tock cadence. Pretty soon AMD won't be competing on the ultra mobile front either. All they'll have is GPUs (in which they lost marketshare over the past quarters), ARM servers, and consoles.
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