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Uh, that's Llano vs. Sandy Bridge; both are what, three years old now? Kaveri vs. Haswell is the current comparison, with Carrizo vs. Broadwell next year.

Sorry I was taking about HTPC build despite both being a few years old
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The chip needs quad channel ddr4 support...
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The chip needs quad channel ddr4 support...
Yup. Right there.

I won't be building anything with an APU before it gets more "beefy". And these APU's are horribly bottlenecked by the DDR3-memory. Gimme some more bandwidth and I'd go for it.
But, as of now, nope.
    
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Gimme some more bandwidth and I'd go for it.

I am tired of AMD progressively unifying mobile and desktop chips... The south bridge integration is useless for the desktop chips, the space could be used for additional cores... The hybrid ddr3 and ddr4 memory controller is another byproduct of universal design which may save a few bucks in R&D in the short run but will cripple the desktop segment even further as time progresses. Considering that Iris Pro is coming to the Z97 socket this year...
Edited by Slomo4shO - 3/23/14 at 4:01pm
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I am tired of AMD progressively unifying mobile and desktop chips... The south bridge integration is useless for the desktop chips, the space could be used for additional cores... The hybrid ddr3 and ddr4 memory controller is another byproduct of universal design which may save a few bucks in R&D in the short run but will cripple the desktop segment even further as time progresses. Considering that Iris Pro is coming to the Z97 socket this year...

Iris Pro is great but Intel only releases drivers once a year and certain video file type do not play nice.
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I am tired of AMD progressively unifying mobile and desktop chips... The south bridge integration is useless for the desktop chips, the space could be used for additional cores... The hybrid ddr3 and ddr4 memory controller is another byproduct of universal design which may save a few bucks in R&D in the short run but will cripple the desktop segment even further as time progresses. Considering that Iris Pro is coming to the Z97 socket this year...


What about AMD's investment with Hynix in HBM DDR3? Early testing shows the bandwith of up to 128GB/s. Far greater than DDR4. There is too much we do not know to assume the worst.
http://sites.amd.com/us/Documents/TFE2011_006HYN.pdf
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Gee..AMD always says the next thing is gonna be killer.Over it.Show me something.
 
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The south bridge integration is useless for the desktop chips, the space could be used for additional cores...

But they can save space on mItx mobos by integrating the south bridge. AMD APU + mItx will make a hell of an ultra tiny form factor build thumb.gif

Heck, I might ditch my ASUS H61 ITX + i3 3225 + GTX 280 combo for an AMD APU combo.

Still don't see how AMD is going to beat i5 and i7s with their APUs though.
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This is some serious crap. Come on AMD, step up your game..
No DDR4, not even a full speed PCIE slot, southbridge onboard etc...

Build a powerful APU, made for enthusiasts and I will buy it in a heartbeat.
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Well this is really throwing me off. Can't find an A8 Kaveri anywhere in Canada.

Did they even release it in Canada? It doesn't even exist on new egg.
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