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post #41 of 70
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Gee..AMD always says the next thing is gonna be killer.Over it.Show me something.

Yeah. In terms of APU they are no delivering. Kaveri was a disappointment.
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post #42 of 70
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Well this is really throwing me off. Can't find an A8 Kaveri anywhere in Canada.

Did they even release it in Canada? It doesn't even exist on new egg.
They haven't released it yet but they should soon.
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Iris Pro is great but Intel only releases drivers once a year and certain video file type do not play nice.
Until you need driver support or you crank up the resolution
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This is some serious crap. Come on AMD, step up your game..
No DDR4, not even a full speed PCIE slot, southbridge onboard etc...

Build a powerful APU, made for enthusiasts and I will buy it in a heartbeat.
Where do you get this information about no DDR4 because it can very well be bogus.
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I am tired of AMD progressively unifying mobile and desktop chips... The south bridge integration is useless for the desktop chips, the space could be used for additional cores... The hybrid ddr3 and ddr4 memory controller is another byproduct of universal design which may save a few bucks in R&D in the short run but will cripple the desktop segment even further as time progresses. Considering that Iris Pro is coming to the Z97 socket this year...

What happened to the time everyone was making fun of AMD for 'MOAR COREZ!!" Hypocritical enthusiast community rolleyes.gif

AMD needs stronger single cores, or something to mitigate their single core performance weakness, and more cores is not the answer.
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post #44 of 70
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Yeah. In terms of APU they are no delivering. Kaveri was a disappointment.

In my book A8/10 APU are very nice products, just in a segment I am not interested in (i3 competitors). We have that leak from last year that indicates EX core will be very strong (it is SR on steroids) but it needs to come in a potent platform and configuration (at least 4 modules) for me to consider it for main computer.
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What happened to the time everyone was making fun of AMD for 'MOAR COREZ!!" Hypocritical enthusiast community rolleyes.gif

AMD needs stronger single cores, or something to mitigate their single core performance weakness, and more cores is not the answer.
Clearly they will do this with the later iterations of the bulldozer family the revised fpu will go a long way and eventually will clear the way to using the gpu on die for floating point calculations.
Then there is also the integer part that currently still lacks but the better fpu will free ties up calculations faster and a front end and branch prediction improvement would do the rest.

AMD's small cores are slated to take over after the generation that comes after excavator but perhaps AMD will keep them anyways for their servers and desktop and high end mobile/dockables.
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This is some serious crap. Come on AMD, step up your game..
No DDR4, not even a full speed PCIE slot, southbridge onboard etc...

Build a powerful APU, made for enthusiasts and I will buy it in a heartbeat.

DDR4 will be supported, just not on FM2+.

Why waste tons of R&D making an enthusiast-class APU when the ROI won't be worth it at all? Remember when all the so-called enthusiasts kept crying for a CPU with no integrated graphics "wasting up the die space"? Intel responded with the i5-2550k, and guess what happened: hardly anyone bought it.

Makes no sense for them from a financial perspective to have another production line just for a niche product that hardly anyone will buy.
post #47 of 70
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DDR4 will be supported, just not on FM2+.

Why waste tons of R&D making an enthusiast-class APU when the ROI won't be worth it at all? Remember when all the so-called enthusiasts kept crying for a CPU with no integrated graphics "wasting up the die space"? Intel responded with the i5-2550k, and guess what happened: hardly anyone bought it.

Makes no sense for them from a financial perspective to have another production line just for a niche product that hardly anyone will buy.

The 2550K wasn't released because enthusiasts wanted one... It was released because there were 2500Ks/2600Ks that had a defective igpu.

It's just the normal SB die with the igpu lasered off. In the same way as the 760K is just a 6800K with the igpu disabled. It's still in there, just not functional.
 
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post #48 of 70
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Clearly they will do this with the later iterations of the bulldozer family the revised fpu will go a long way and eventually will clear the way to using the gpu on die for floating point calculations.
Then there is also the integer part that currently still lacks but the better fpu will free ties up calculations faster and a front end and branch prediction improvement would do the rest.

AMD's small cores are slated to take over after the generation that comes after excavator but perhaps AMD will keep them anyways for their servers and desktop and high end mobile/dockables.

You've been mentioning the GPUs becoming a replacement for the floating point unit of the CPU cores for a while now. Where did you get this information from that AMD are doing this with their APUs? I'm asking because I've been looking for such info for a while now, and the only times I've seen mention of FPU being replaced with GPU is from forum members, both here and in others.
     
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post #49 of 70
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You've been mentioning the GPUs becoming a replacement for the floating point unit of the CPU cores for a while now. Where did you get this information from that AMD are doing this with their APUs? I'm asking because I've been looking for such info for a while now, and the only times I've seen mention of FPU being replaced with GPU is from forum members, both here and in others.

It was never confirmed because it's not gonna happen. The integration of the CPU and GPU compute units will become more intimate over time, yes, but the CPU will keep it's own floating point calculator since some floating point ops are better suited for the CPU than a traditional GPU.
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The APU FPU made the bulldozer build make more sense. And I agree that the FPU in the CPU will not disappear.
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