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from what i have picked it passes the $1000 range
i5-4670k
evga gtx 780
msi z87-gd65
samsung 840 evo 120 gb sata 3
corsair vengeance 8gb 240-pin ddr3 sdram
corsair hydro h100i extreme performance
corsair rm series rm650 650w
seagate barracuda 1tb 7200 rpm 64mb cache sata 6.0gb/s 3.5
win 7
and a corsair c70 for the case

CPU and SSD is good.
780 can be cut down to a 770 or AMD equiv
Motherboard, maybe get a z87x like the Gigabyte z87x-D3H
Ram is okay as long as its 2x4GB 1600. Not much point going higher unless it's like $10 difference
h100i for CPU cooling is a no-no. Save the money and get a Cooler master 212 variant. You can even stay on the stock Intel cooler if you want.
Have to check the PSU if that series has anything wrong with it, otherwise a 650w Gold is okay.

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yes on the ram its 2-4gb 1600,and yes on the psu, its plus gold......... thanks guys

Uh-no the OP is already talking about overclocking and getting a parts that are going to be overclocked. WIth Haswell the 212 is not a good choice.

Corsair ram is overpriced there are better alternatives and can save a few buck look towards G.Skill.

Those RM PSU's are not good.
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If he is going 1440 then the 780 or a 290 are the way to go, if he stays at 1080 then a 280X and 770 are both as high as he needs to push for value to performance experience.
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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3eALD
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3eALD/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3eALD/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($152.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Beast 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($96.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($319.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair C70 Military Green (Green) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Rosewill Tachyon 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1071.79
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-22 19:36 EDT-0400)

Little bit over. HDD is a hybrid drive so you should get performance between an HDD and SSD for a fraction of the cost of an SSD+HDD. GTX770 should be plenty for 1080p. Also do not get the RM series corsair, they are over priced and not that great (i have one, regret it). I didnt include the cost of the OS in it. If you really need to get the price down, you can cut corners on the motherboard, case, psu. Case is a matter of preference mostly (im not a fan of that case but its ur computer), psu could be found cheaper, and there are cheaper motherboards but its the foundation of the PC, skimping on it may cause it to run less well than desired.
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Ram:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104373 Very good price and has lifetime warranty. These are 2400mhz.

Power Supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151118. Solid modular 550w. 650 is a bit much for a single card I ran two 780s on a 660w.
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Depends on:

5) Are you ready to be your own tech support?

5 is important. You say you dont know anything about this stuff...if thats the case you either need to learn or pay someone (be it a company or a person) to build and maintain it for you. Start googling and read up, plenty of guides and information out there. We can help choose parts and give suggestions, we cant teach you though.

Don't let this guy scare you, you don't have to pay anyone to do anything, other than ship the parts to you. Putting together your PC is like Legos for adults, just read the instructions and you should be fine. If there is an issue, take out possible pieces of equipment that it could be and try to figure out what is broken/not working, or make a thread with the symptoms that your PC is experiencing here, and people will be more than willing to help. You don't have to pay an engineer to maintain your computer, if there is an issue, you are more than capable of fixing it yourself. Well good luck thumb.gif
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Uh-no the OP is already talking about overclocking and getting a parts that are going to be overclocked. WIth Haswell the 212 is not a good choice.

Corsair ram is overpriced there are better alternatives and can save a few buck look towards G.Skill.

Those RM PSU's are not good.

Unless he is doing some serious OC'ing he is not going to need more than a 212 (unless his OC'ing knowledge is far ahead of his rig building, no offense OP) or theres some problem with Haswells and 212s that I don't know about.

Agreed on the PSU, I was sure that there was a line of Corsair's that were shoddy.
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If he is going 1440 then the 780 or a 290 are the way to go, if he stays at 1080 then a 280X and 770 are both as high as he needs to push for value to performance experience.

Missed the part about 1440p, if OP wants to go that route and can spend on a 780 then by all means. A 770 is no slouch at 1440 though, from the benchmarks I've seen the 780 is 20% faster with the games set to ridiculous AA and SS (8xMSAA or 4xSSAA is not needed at 1440p imo). The 770 could still pull 45~fps (Tomb Raider, Bioshock) at those settings so its not like the card is not viable if those settings were disabled.
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Don't let this guy scare you, you don't have to pay anyone to do anything, other than ship the parts to you. Putting together your PC is like Legos for adults, just read the instructions and you should be fine. If there is an issue, take out possible pieces of equipment that it could be and try to figure out what is broken/not working, or make a thread with the symptoms that your PC is experiencing here, and people will be more than willing to help. You don't have to pay an engineer to maintain your computer, if there is an issue, you are more than capable of fixing it yourself. Well good luck thumb.gif

Wasn't intended to scare them, its reality. If he builds a computer he will be responsible for fixing it. Alot of first time builders don't consider that. I wasn't suggesting that he pays anyone, pointing out that if he doesn't do it himself that's the alternative. Sometimes even people who could do it themselves dont want to be responsible for it. Building your own PC means when it breaks your the tech support for it. Sure he can come here and ask for help, but none of us will be there with him to help. Same as people who work on their own cars, they either do it themselves or take it to a mechanic when they dont have the skill or the time to do it themselves.

With that said if you enjoy fixing stuff, tinkering, making things yourself, and computers in general then there is nothing like building your own computer. Make use of the resources here and elsewhere if you do plan to build your own. If you are willing to learn, and realize the risk and rewards of self building then its well worth it. I've never bought a store bought computer my entire life, and i plan to keep it that way.

Let me know if the build i linked is ok or if you want to make adjustments or additions. It also probably wouldn't hurt for you to consider getting some thermal paste (assuming the cooler doesn't come with extra) and a PC toolkit (they can be gotten for like 10+, i have one that was like 15-20 and it has way more then id ever use).

If you do build it research all the parts, do your "homework", and make sure its what you want to spend your hard earned money on. Get everything as close together as possible. This will give you time to test it and exchange if any parts have an issue. When you get all the parts it will be tempting to build it fast and start gaming...DONT. Install the OS, get all your updates, patches and drivers installed. Then test it all. CPU testing, RAM, HDD, GPU, etc. Make sure its stable at stock before you OC (my first 4770k wasnt). After at least a day or a couple even of testing and being confident in the stability then start installing applications and really using it. I know it sounds boring but in the long run it could save you time, money, and frustration.

Anything your not sure about google/youtube first and dont force anything. Most of all enjoy building it!
post #19 of 32
remember guys OP said his budget was a grand... a 780 is basically not doable with everything else he needs now if that budget is very flexible a used one might be attainable... at least not the way i see it also on a budget of a grand 1440p is not plausible either. That said this isn't a console op so get the best you can afford now (1080p) and then later when you've saved up some more benjamin's feel free to replace resell parts as needed. I second getting an H212 for now. the H100i is awesome but you gotta take money from some where to put it elsewhere. Also I second buying Gskill ram. it's cheaper usually.
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hello guys, i want to built a pc just for gaming, i want to know the parts that i need to buy in order to get a good pc gaming experience possible...

what i want to get from it is:
1080p or more
that i can play with a controller while i get the hang of the mouse and keyboard
power and smooth
as you can see i don't know much biggrin.gif

we cant do the whole work for you,

do some research first, (theres a whole bunch of links everywhere, on this site, other forums, etc etc etc.)
and get a basic understanding.
do research on what parts are needed for the full build.
what parts do what exactly.
(your going to need to do this sooner or later, so you might as well start off with it)
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from what i have picked it passes the $1000 range
i5-4670k
evga gtx 780
msi z87-gd65
samsung 840 evo 120 gb sata 3
corsair vengeance 8gb 240-pin ddr3 sdram
corsair hydro h100i extreme performance
corsair rm series rm650 650w
seagate barracuda 1tb 7200 rpm 64mb cache sata 6.0gb/s 3.5
win 7
and a corsair c70 for the case

this shows that you randomly threw together the highest quality parts you can find. thats a big no no.

figure out to yourself, how much are you willing to spend on a total PC (which u said 1k, but a 780 isnt doable with this budget)

and are you willing to spend a big chunk of money on 1440p monitor? is it worth it for you?

also, how much does game qaulity matter to you? do you need to play on ultra maxed out settings on every game? or is med, or high fine for you?

are you going to OC? is the premium price you have to pay to OC worth it for you?
etc etc
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