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You aren't missing much. It is better, in theory, to have two GPUs on one card rather than two individual GPUs connected via an SLI cable. However, this rarely works out, most graphics cards that come with two GPUs have massive issues on release and/or have issues that never fully get worked out. The advantage of the Titan Z is that nVidia has done some extra leg work to ensure that the two GPUs communicate properly, and sync their clock speeds and processes, this should improve overall performance and reduce the major issues of frame dropping and artifacting that we sometimes see when using multi-card setups. All that said, these features are not worth $1000, hell, the allure to the dual GPU one card pitch has almost always been that you get the same power (or more) as two cards in SLI/Crossfire for a very similar price or for less. I'm not sure who this card is targeted at because they advertise it as a gaming card and a card for professionals, but the price is just obscene, you could buy three Titan Blacks and run them in SLI for the cost of this card, maybe they just want to see how much people will pay for it?

There is so much misinformation in this post....

NVidia won't do any such work to make them "communicate properly" and "sync their clock speeds and processes". It's nothing more than two Titan GPUs, two sets of GDDR RAM, and a SLI link connecting the two together, with a PLX PCIE bridge and a shared power supply. Two cards, jammed together on one circuit board. To get away with the thermal issues, both chips are 20% under-clocked from the factory. It's a perfect way to sell off those Titans chips that run OK at 700 MHz but won't run stable at stock Titan single GPU clocks. Make no mistake, you're not getting "better" chips, you're getting underperforming chips, under-clocked.

The advantage is that it saves space, and lets you run quad SLI while taking up only two slots -- or SLI on a one-slot ITX board (think ITX mini-case with dual Titans).

While we're on the subject, jamming two GPUs on one card is nothing new... the last two generations from NVidia have had a 2-GPU option on one board.

Greg
post #22 of 25
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In response to your TL;DR, I will offer you one as well.

Don't waste your money and just get a 780. The rest are jokes.


I disagree.

the 760 and 770 are great GPU also.
IMO, the 780 and 780 TI or just overkill GPU for brag rights. (unless ur gaming on something more than 1080p)
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I disagree.

the 760 and 770 are great GPU also.
IMO, the 780 and 780 TI or just overkill GPU for brag rights. (unless ur gaming on something more than 1080p)

I would say the minimum would be a 770 if you can get it, and then the 780 for the average buyer who wants/needs an upgrade from a couple of gens ago. The 780ti and above are somewhat overkill (especially the price) and should only be bought if you really need it.
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For your current setup, a GTX 780 would be an upgrade. A GTX 770 would be a side-grade or downgrade depending on how you look at it.

If you want something good, get the GTX 780. As others have said, the 780 Ti is a "bragging rights" card, and is not worth the extra money.
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There is so much misinformation in this post....

NVidia won't do any such work to make them "communicate properly" and "sync their clock speeds and processes". It's nothing more than two Titan GPUs, two sets of GDDR RAM, and a SLI link connecting the two together, with a PLX PCIE bridge and a shared power supply. Two cards, jammed together on one circuit board. To get away with the thermal issues, both chips are 20% under-clocked from the factory. It's a perfect way to sell off those Titans chips that run OK at 700 MHz but won't run stable at stock Titan single GPU clocks. Make no mistake, you're not getting "better" chips, you're getting underperforming chips, under-clocked.

The advantage is that it saves space, and lets you run quad SLI while taking up only two slots -- or SLI on a one-slot ITX board (think ITX mini-case with dual Titans).

While we're on the subject, jamming two GPUs on one card is nothing new... the last two generations from NVidia have had a 2-GPU option on one board.

Greg

Sorry, to be honest I only skimmed a few articles about the Titan Z and saw something about them working on getting the GPUs to communicate better and with all of the articles out there right now I probably have been misinformed, I wasn't aware that they had released the official clock speeds either, regardless, it doesn't seem like it could possibly be a justifiably useful card at this point.
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