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I'm kind of in the same boat of looking for a new gaming monitor. I have a XL2420TE right now and only use the monitor with Lightboost enabled (not a fan of the regular 120/144hz as they both bother my eyes in fast paced FPS, which is odd because I did not have this problem with my older XL2410T), but the colors absolutely suck on this thing (I've come to this conclusion after having owned the monitor since November). Everything is either way too dark or way too bright. I've tried numerous settings but can't ever get anything to look right with Lightboost on. I honestly played CS better on my old U2210H 60hz IPS Dell than on any of these 120hz+ BenQ "gaming" monitors thus far.

I don't know if I should upgrade to the Z model that has more LB color features, wait for the ASUS ROG, maybe try the 24" ASUS 144hz, or pickup a Sony FW900 that's available locally (albeit the guy wants a bit more than what they usually go for, but supposedly it's "like-new"), or just go back to a nice 1080p IPS.
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i cant afford a 240hz tv haha.

 

i also read some asus monitors could be "hacked" to use g sync

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Honestly, coming from someone who is a "gamer" (but unlike the overwhelming majorit, I seem to be one of a handful who realize that I amnnot, never was, and never will be a "professional gamer"... If you are not making a significant amount of your income from playing games, then you are not a professional gamer... I also think that if you have to label yourself as a" serious competitive gamer", and you care about the end of match rankings more than having a good time, then you are missing the point of the whole escapism aspect of the hobby; I play games to RELIEVE stress, and as someone with a heavy educational background in psychology, I still don't understand why people take something meant to be a stress reliever, and make it a stressor... Not pointing fingers, it's just a trend that I have been blinded by)..
...
And who also has a decent amount of computer equipment, including a fairly wide range of displays (lots of audio equipment tho!) ranging from21-22" 1080p to 27/30" 1440p/1600p H-IPS/AH-IPS/PLS/S-IPS/VA/MVA/AMVA/etc.
I have asked friends who have been sitting in front of a few of my displays at the same time, which looks better... These are friends who game, like me, casually, but enough that they all have pretty high end rigs.
All six chose the Dell/Viewsonic/other 2560x1440p AH-IPS as being "wow!" improvements, and found that the small reduction in blur from the 120/144 TN panels was not even close to the same improvement in overall "wow" factor that the WQHD 8bit panels provide. This is with everyone coming from no more than 1.5yr old 22-24" 1080p60 TN panels at home.


I am likely going to get called names and whatnot, but I am OK with it, because I feel that I am doing nothing but providing an alternative viewpoint, and a reasonable, honest discourse on the perceived differences between the types of panel in question, at least on this side of the Internet wires.


Furthermore, I have to state that the 2560x1440p IPS displays have a number of advantages that are seen across the board, and not limited solely to games. Even then, I have yet to find anyone in person who is not very impressed at the image quality provided by the huge increase in pixel count combined with the frankly world's away more accurate color reproduction.
Some pros to the 1440p IPS displays I have not seen anyone mention...
- Significant increase in usable workspace, allowing you to view multiple Windows or programs side by side
- TRUE 16.7 MILLION colors, rather than 256,000 with dithering
- The sheer pixel density results in a reduction in aliasing equivalent about to a 24" 1080p monitor using somewhere between 4x and 8x MSAA. With nothingmmore than FXAA/SMAA, you get antialiasing equivalent to about 1080p 8x MSAA, but also significant improvements in texture sharpness, actual contrast ratio, the ability to make out scenes clearly that are washed out (from too much bright or dark) on TN, and so forth.
- I find that in most cases, whether running my 670FTW, SLI 680LTG, or SLI 780Ti Classy, the performance is no different despite the increase in pixels, due to the hugely decreased need for obscene amounts of AA, and the image quality is still superior in all other respects

I have never had a problem with iinput lag, and quite frankly the AH-IPS panels of today provide superior motion clarity over the "superior clarity" TN panels from just a year or so ago. I am willing to bet that if you are using a monitor from 2k12 or earlier, you will find a modern 1440p IPS superior in quite literally every way.


That said, if you truly believe that the moderate increase in motionclarity is worth the trade offs in every other area of the display output, and if you can take advantageby mmaintaining an average of 90fps+ in modern games, then go with what you feel is better. I have never lost a game because of a blur, but I have found that even 5-8yr old games have taken on a new life when seen in such incredible IQ. What matters is what will make you happy, and for me, the greatly increased immersion, the lifelike picture quality, and the many benefits outside games answers that for me, no question.

I would only ask that, before making a decision, you go see the two ddifferent types side by side in person. A U2713HM (not the best of the bunch, btw) next to whateversuper-hz monitor. Micro cent er is a good place for this.
Decide with your own eyes.
   
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post #44 of 50
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Originally Posted by MLJS54 View Post

I'm kind of in the same boat of looking for a new gaming monitor. I have a XL2420TE right now and only use the monitor with Lightboost enabled (not a fan of the regular 120/144hz as they both bother my eyes in fast paced FPS, which is odd because I did not have this problem with my older XL2410T), but the colors absolutely suck on this thing (I've come to this conclusion after having owned the monitor since November). Everything is either way too dark or way too bright. I've tried numerous settings but can't ever get anything to look right with Lightboost on. I honestly played CS better on my old U2210H 60hz IPS Dell than on any of these 120hz+ BenQ "gaming" monitors thus far.

I don't know if I should upgrade to the Z model that has more LB color features, wait for the ASUS ROG, maybe try the 24" ASUS 144hz, or pickup a Sony FW900 that's available locally (albeit the guy wants a bit more than what they usually go for, but supposedly it's "like-new"), or just go back to a nice 1080p IPS.
Lots of options there.

Some thoughts:

- You can't go wrong with waiting for the ASUS ROG. It looks like a win-win. Since you are both into strobe back-lights and image quality.
- FW900: Same deal. Motion clarity combined with great image quality.

- Newer BenQ's (Z-series) : These are coming with "BenQ's motion blur reduction" which doesn't have the issues that the lightboost hack has with color, contrast and tints.
-24" ASUS 144hz w/ G-sync kit: The ULMB mode also don't have the lightboost issues.
- 24" ASUS 144hz without G-sync kit: Not worth it. Would perform similarly to your current monitor and would have the same issues inherent to the lightboost hack.

- 1080p IPS: Good colors and vision angles compared to TN, but not suited for gaming.
post #45 of 50
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i cant afford a 240hz tv haha.

i also read some asus monitors could be "hacked" to use g sync
Yes the ASUS VG248QE.

You'll need the DIY kit from NVIDIA. (It's back in stock since a few days.)
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/g-sync/diy
post #46 of 50
I am just curious, but why all of the sudden are IPS panels "not suited for gaming"? For many years, 60hz was the defacto standard regardless of thepanel type, so I fail to see how something that has been perfectly fine for gaming is suddenly unacceptable?

Furthermore, not only do you get the kind of image quality that is, factually speaking, superior to any current TN, but it also happens that some of the absolute best displays for no-/imperceptible input lag are IPS, such as the vaunted U2312Hm...
   
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post #47 of 50
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Yes the ASUS VG248QE.

You'll need the DIY kit from NVIDIA. (It's back in stock since a few days.)
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/g-sync/diy

thats one of the monitors i have been eyeing. i might go with it.

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thats one of the monitors i have been eyeing. i might go with it.
It's a very tempting monitor.
Stock it has PWM dimming, but once you replace the board with the G-sync module, it becomes PWM-free.
verified using pursuit camera: http://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=271&p=2603#p2533

Then you would have the best of both worlds.
- ULMB mode for games you can run at 120fps stable.
- G-sync mode for the other games.

If you can afford it, it's probably the best gaming monitor (once the g-sync module is installed) available currently.
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It's a very tempting monitor.
Stock it has PWM dimming, but once you replace the board with the G-sync module, it becomes PWM-free.
verified using pursuit camera: http://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=271&p=2603#p2533

Then you would have the best of both worlds.
- ULMB mode for games you can run at 120fps stable.
- G-sync mode for the other games.

If you can afford it, it's probably the best gaming monitor (once the g-sync module is installed) available currently.

anything else you think i could go with? i had a budget of 250 but if theres something cheaper out there. 

 

and is 3d worth it? i would be willing to try that. 

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hey hasty, i borrowed a different monitor, its a bit older but a gaming monitor and every game ran smoothly and perfectly while this one gave me problems. so i think yea, its deffo the monitor. the ufo test didnt give me eye problems either. 

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