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Originally Posted by defcon5 View Post

It's a normal process in a childhood the grass is greenier and candys are tastier etc smile.gif

This needs to be brought up more than it is.
I feel like people complain about everything getting worse at least once a week. I'm sorry you're not having as much fun as you remember having when you were younger, but I just wish people wouldn't get so excited to say everything is crap. Over and over and over again.
If you don't like the games that are coming out, don't play them.
If some of the games you thought were fun back then were single player, play those again.
If you don't want to spend $50-60 on a game, why buy it at launch? I consider my steam library to be fairly large and the only game I paid more than $10 for was Portal 2 (which I got for $20 because my friends wanted to play the multiplayer). If you can be just a little more patient, you can still play the game and not feel the pain in your wallet so much if you wind up not liking it (which will only happen if you stop limiting yourself with "well everything released these days sucks").
You may say that you'll miss out on the multiplayer community if you wait too long, but if it doesn't last long enough for it to go on sale doesn't that just give you an insight to where you would have been if you had bought the game at launch.

I'm not saying there's no overall trend in game design or that I think games are necessarily improving, I just get bothered by hearing the same thing repeatedly. Especially when people tend to act like it's the first time it's been brought up. It makes me think I'm being fed false memories or something.
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I think games have gone downhill too since CoD 4, but that's probably nostalgia. Interests change, welcome to maturity? rolleyes.gif

Overpowered kill streaks in all CODs after 4... Definitely not nostalgia. The helicopter was good in 4, because it gunned down some people but it was quite easy to avoid dying to if you knew how to play. Predator missles and stuff are almost unavoidable though, and they suck IMO.

Not much to do with nostalgia or interests really, in some cases some games legitimately get worse despite still having a huge interest in gaming and the genre.
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Overpowered kill streaks in all CODs after 4... Definitely not nostalgia. The helicopter was good in 4, because it gunned down some people but it was quite easy to avoid dying to if you knew how to play. Predator missles and stuff are almost unavoidable though, and they suck IMO.

Not much to do with nostalgia or interests really, in some cases some games legitimately get worse despite still having a huge interest in gaming and the genre.

Nah, I disagree. I don't know how I missed this post.
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It's a normal process in a childhood the grass is greenier and candys are tastier etc smile.gif

I agree with defcon. thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by MR_Plow View Post

This needs to be brought up more than it is.
I feel like people complain about everything getting worse at least once a week. I'm sorry you're not having as much fun as you remember having when you were younger, but I just wish people wouldn't get so excited to say everything is crap. Over and over and over again.
If you don't like the games that are coming out, don't play them.
If some of the games you thought were fun back then were single player, play those again.
If you don't want to spend $50-60 on a game, why buy it at launch? I consider my steam library to be fairly large and the only game I paid more than $10 for was Portal 2 (which I got for $20 because my friends wanted to play the multiplayer). If you can be just a little more patient, you can still play the game and not feel the pain in your wallet so much if you wind up not liking it (which will only happen if you stop limiting yourself with "well everything released these days sucks").
You may say that you'll miss out on the multiplayer community if you wait too long, but if it doesn't last long enough for it to go on sale doesn't that just give you an insight to where you would have been if you had bought the game at launch.

I'm not saying there's no overall trend in game design or that I think games are necessarily improving, I just get bothered by hearing the same thing repeatedly. Especially when people tend to act like it's the first time it's been brought up. It makes me think I'm being fed false memories or something.

And All this.
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No FPS has ever matched Half life and half life 2.

No MMO has matched Burning Crusade WoW

No turn based strategy has matched Civ II / Civ III

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Just look at the colin mcrae/dirt games thats been going down hill for years.

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If you don't want to spend $50-60 on a game, why buy it at launch?
My opinion is that games should be sold on shareware basis or there is should be fully functional demo version. Because if game is a crap I should have the right to return my money or not pay at all.
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Games aren't now just getting crappier. It has been a slow and steady decline since 2007. It really stood out with Call of Duty 4, being the first game in the series focused primarily on casual multiplayer and only having a lower quality 4 hour campaign.

I definitely think that Modern Warfare's multiplayer was poor. Terribly, terribly overrated. As for the the singleplayer campaign, it was short, but I don't really agree about the quality. I actually think the SP was very well executed. What Call of Duty campaign do you think was the gold standard for the series?
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I think this might be a myth. Only two games demonstrate real "next-gen" graphics, the rest have made little advancement within the last 5 years. They just shoehorn in ridiculous amounts of bloom, lens flare, and awful looking depth of field... that's modern day graphics. Crysis from 2007 still looks better than most games today.

This is what I keep trying to tell people. The "devs only focus on graphics now" argument is severely misguided. I wish there was still a huge drive for next gen graphics, that way at least we'd have some kind of progression.
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My opinion is that games should be sold on shareware basis or there is should be fully functional demo version. Because if game is a crap I should have the right to return my money or not pay at all.

I feel the same way. I've bought quite a few games for $60 that I almost immediately disliked, and couldn't return them. I feels like I get scammed every time it happens.

Demos should be a requirement. If not, the ability to return is almost a must.
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isn't this a good thing
crappy games = less desire to upgrade computer = more money and time for the outdoors

try playing with a group of players consistently in teambased games like Arma or CS:GO etc
     
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isn't this a good thing
crappy games = less desire to upgrade computer = more money and time for the outdoors

No, the time goes into writing posts lamenting over the sorry state of PC gaming on forums like this, and the money goes into running the good old games at ever increasing frame rates, resolutions and with unreasonable levels of SSAA.
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